Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:51:09 -0400
Reply-To: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: AMC Heads (My views)
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I called Marnal today and spoke with the salesman there. This is the
supplier that my heads come from before they trickle down to all of the
big wholesalers. They confirmed that they do get the AMC heads bare
into their warehouse and then install the valves, springs, etc. He
said that they use an Italian valve made by a company called Ivam. You
can check out their website at the link below.
http://www.paginegialle.it/ivam
He said about eight years ago they had problems with valves but they
have since changed suppliers for the valves. He said that they sold
around 1000 of the waterboxer cylinder heads last year in the US and had
no major issues with the valves.
All of this info took me one phone call and about 5 mins to get. Just
FYI.
Thanks,
Ken Wilford
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-----Original Message-----
From: Al and Sue Brase [mailto:albeeee@mchsi.com]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:15 PM
To: Kenneth Wilford
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: AMC Heads (My views)
So, does anybody know what brands of valves are out there and what are
in these heads. I think OE in older type 2's came from 2 main suppliers:
Ate (TRW ?) and Eaton Livonia. In my experience the Ate's were the
best. I think 2.1's have sodium cooled stems, but I've never
investigated. Most of these had the name and part number stamped on the
stem near the keeper locks.
I think I'd rather have the old Ate's than the new third world ones. Are
Spain and Italy in this category? Some Italian valves are pretty good.
I'd defer to others who have more empircal data. BOB?
Al Brase
Kenneth Wilford wrote:
>Actually this all boils down to a valve issue. What valves are the
>folks using? Here is your statement:
>
>"My AMC 2.1L heads do NOT have these valve stems because I do NOT get
>them from AMC's U.S. importer. Mine are fully assembled in Europe by
>AMC themselves."
>
>The valves are what is supposedly causing the problem (the stem is part
>of the valve in case you didn't know).
>
>So what valves are any of these folks using? Who knows? I could be
>wrong but unless you know the brand of valves that Marnel is using here
>in the US
>
>
>