Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:27:08 -0700
Reply-To: Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
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From: Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
Subject: Re: camper heating
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Hi Daniel,
I checked out your links, thanks, some good info there especially the hot
water shower system.
Boy it sure looks expensive for the simple plumbing they show in the pic.
Also, it looks to me like the heat exchanger is too small to transfer the
heat to a flowing shower from an ice cold stream, no?
I like your ideas of adding heat and heated water to the vanagon for a
shower.
I have been working on using an old rear vanagon heater core as a hot water
heater.
My initial test was to just fill the core with water and blow hot air
through it with my heat gun.
I did find that it heated the water up in the core very quickly and easily
from cold tap water to hot water in about 30 sec of warm air on the core.
It looks like one could use a radiator / heater core to heat water with a
warm air source like a heater which is where I was headed.
I am thinking of venting the heated outlet air from a propex type of heater
to the core and cycling water through over and over to a tank , perhaps the
main tank.
Zodi makes a really cool hot water / shower set up that is very effective
and small , you could use for showering or hot water.
You can find there stuff at www.zodi.com
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Stevens" <dosteven@SYR.EDU>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:33 AM
Subject: camper heating
> Fall and thinking about HEAT,
>
> one item I've been considering for vehicle preheating and while camping
> where electric is available is a Kitchen Toe kick Electric Space heater.
> it should fit nicely in the base of my cabinet. or possibly a thin
> raised section between the front seats.
>
http://www.houseneeds.com/shop/HeatingProducts/heatingunits/electrical/myson
electricaltoekickheaters.htm
>
>
> For hot water whiel Camped, I stumbled upon this hot water system?
> http://www.hotcampshowers.com/new51788.html
>
> I've seen a van with a tank (where your large battery is atm) and had
> 3/8" copper coolant lines run thru it.
>
> also a small heat exchanger for baseboard hot water systems like this
> would be pretty efficient
>
http://www.houseneeds.com/shop/HeatingProducts/HydronicHeating/heatexchanger
s/mischeatexchangers/heatexchangermainpage.htm
>
>
> the only problem I could see is your car coolant runs to above bioling,
> it would need a T-stat or flow control to minimize boiling of the house
> water. or a way for steam to be released. I seem to recall a webpage
> that illustrated making a hot water tank under the rear bed/seat.
>
>
> any warm thoughts on this kind of hot water systems?