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Date:         Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:38:27 -0700
Reply-To:     jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM
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From:         Jeff at Vanagonparts <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
Subject:      Re: AMC Heads (My views)
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If anyone's looking AVP heads, without pixie dust, for less, I've been selling them for $350 for quite some time now.

Cheers,

Jeff www.vanagonparts.com

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf Of The Bus Depot Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:43 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: AMC Heads (My views)

> As far as the valve stem issue goes I have been installing > and selling these AMC heads for about 6 years now. I have > never had one have one single problem. I know that other > vendors have made much of this supposed problem. It is also > very convenient how they all have some magical fairy dust to > sprinkle on the heads so that only their particular ones that > they sell don't have this problem. Some like Go Westy charge > more for the dust, others throw it in for free (very nice of > them).

And then others, like me, charge LESS for the ones with the magical fairy dust sprinkled on them. :-)

Look, AVP, who does nothing but build Vanagon engines all day long every day, is tearing apart every AMC head that they get from the U.S. distributor because of this valve guide issue. Having seen the mushrooming problem firsthand, they are afraid to warranty their engines otherwise. Why would they go through this time and expense if there were no problem? Maybe they're being overcautious and 99% of the heads would be perfectly fine anyway. But when you go to the trouble of replacing heads or an engine, overcaution is a good thing. What's more, AVP's not the only one to experience this. Go Westy has reported the same problem, and I've heard it elsewhere as well.

The point is, why even risk it? My European assembled heads, which do not use the allegedly questionable valve guides, are actually CHEAPER than those that do. Why would anyone choose to pay more AND take an unneccessary risk, even a small one, for no reason? Maybe the valve guide problem is common, maybe it's quite rare, or maybe it's nonexistent and AVP and others are replacing perfectly good valve guides on brand new heads for no reason. Either way, what's the downside to playing it safe?

- Ron Salmon The Bus Depot, Inc. www.busdepot.com (215) 234-VWVW

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