Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:43:51 -0400
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From: tmiller <tmiller@VCMAILS.COM>
Subject: Re: 101 MPH Vanagon!
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If you want to see the ultimate electric motor for a Vanagon with long
range on 4-6Volt deep cycle batteries, check out this pattent. Very
interesting.<br>
A photo of the first working unit from the patent is here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.free-energy.cc/images/IMG0043a.jpg">http://www.free-energy.cc/images/IMG0043a.jpg</a><br>
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You can read the patent <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size="2">#3,890,548 - June 17, 1975 from the US Patent Office web site
at: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm">http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm</a><br>
Punch in the patent number in the query field and hit search. click on
the Image box to download the info. This is a very interesting concept.<br>
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jimt wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On 10/14/04 11:14 AM, "Kurt Grotz" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kgrotz@MAIL.CRAFTECH.COM"><kgrotz@MAIL.CRAFTECH.COM></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I would have to agree with Don on this one, and will not display my opinion
of Vanagons driving 80-90-100 when VANAGONS are made for 60-65-70 tops. I
will say this, unless I am wrong -it is an incompetent display of gas
guzzling to be driving that fast. It is this kind of un-conservationist
thinking that will force us to abandon our cherished vehicles for cleaner
and/or more efficient ones. This will be either by economics or government
regulations. Now if you are getting 30 mpg at 101, well then I stand
corrected.
As for me - I frequently drive as low as 60 - heaven forbid. If I really
thought it that important to go much faster, I would not own a Vanagon.
Can anyone tell me if there are kits to convert Vanagons to hybrid or
electric?
KG
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Cant find it now but a while back I ran into a site where they had converted
a van to electric. They came to the same conclusion that many others have.
The vans need to be lightened. The battery technology still isnt there.
They had a massive parellel/series setup with 20 batteries hooked up for a
52 volt motor(s?) with a rather expensive controller setup. Cant remember
if they had one motor on each rear wheel or one motor. They used metal
halide technology batteries.
The site was in holland and the van in the pictures was similar to a vanagon
but wasn¹t a vanagon.
Look up zinc-air battery technology on the web. It is currently the best
technology available (watts per pound) but a newer technology is being
worked on.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.electroauto.com/">http://www.electroauto.com/</a>
This is a link I look at every once in a while. They have the voltsrabbit
and a porsche.
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jimt
Planned insanity is best.
Remember that sanity is optional.
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