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Date:         Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:42:37 -0400
Reply-To:     vw4x4@FYI.NET
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject:      Re: jack, costs - At What Cost?
Comments: To: "Gary Lee, Vanagon Racks" <gary2a@TELUS.NET>
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"As an aside, the cost of my raw materials such as tubing and fasteners has doubled in the past year. I've been told this is because china is buying up the world's supply of metal. "

This is true. Here is PGh . Pa I have seen scrap steel at its highest it has ever been, just a few months ago. The U-pull-it yard I go to scrapped hundreds of cars, including 2 vanagons, because of this. I didn't believe my eye the day I got there!!! ERic

Gary Lee, Vanagon Racks wrote:

>> And you can't get good workmanship from contractors -- > > >>> but you can, it's just that hardly anyone can afford to pay what good >>> artisanship >>> costs at a rate the artisan is willing to work for >> > > I can relate this to a vanagon context. As many of you know, I make > racks > and carriers for the vanagon. > I imagine people see manufactured products at say Wal-Mart and make a > general comparison (content, complexity) with the products that I > make. We have become accustomed to low priced consumer goods, $40 DVD > player, $50 floor jack, that we think that all products can be > low priced. It's just not possible to make an item of quality in the > United > States (or Canada) at the same price as an offshore product. > The vanagon market is very small, compared to jeep and landcruiser. > It is > not feasible to set up a plant in a 'low labor cost' country to produce > vanagon products. I think quality control would be a big issue as well. > > As an aside, the cost of my raw materials such as tubing and fasteners > has > doubled in the past year. I've been told this is because china is buying > up the world's supply of metal. > > Gary Lee > Calgary, Canada > http://www.telusplanet.net/public/gary2a/vw.htm > >


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