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Date:         Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:01:40 -0400
Reply-To:     Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject:      Re: What's wrong with that picture....
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>

NEWS...

The rod to crank bearing was really dry, so i tripple check the oil conduit, Blocked!!!!! i don't know for how long this engine as been running like that but that is the main cause!!!! we flooded the engine trying to upgrade the FI from CX to SI, that gave the last blow.....

http://www.benplace.com/bjp/100_0152.jpg Checking the oil conduit...

Cheers, Ben

--------------------------------------------------------------------- The rod did not bend due to coolant washing the oil off the cylinder or seizing the rings. At some point, enough coolant puddled in there and since water can not compress, the rod did. This is common failure on Ford Triton engines (especially V-6) when the gaskets shrink in cold weather allowing coolant into the cylinders. Usual cause after head replacement is defective head gasket, improper torque procedure or re-used bolts. Another possibility is local overheating if engine not completely filled with coolant before starting.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Benny boy Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:37 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: What's wrong with that picture....

JIMT is right, the #4 (left) as a bent conecting rods so the piston is lower by 1/4in (it should be equal to #1): http://www.benplace.com/bjp/100_0158.jpg

On this picture you can see where the rod touch the cylinder (2 places), you can even see the curve in the rod.

Now, my problem is that i cause that bending!!!!!! this engine was working (not well) before it enter my shop, the head(#4 location)and piston have no damage at all!!!! but the cylinder wall, crank (#4) and rod show sign of wear and are dried up as opposed to the 3 others cylinders, after intensive research, here is my conclusion:

The #4 piston rings where almost seized due to a faulty head gasket, coolant was leaking in the cylinder drying this one and slowly seizing the rings, the result is an bad lubrification in that cylinder causing this one to overheat and distord the rod, when i started back the engine with a rebuilt head and full top end compression the rod didn't hold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What that does tell you, that the rebuilt of a head(S) is a risk for the rest of the engine, i always tell people that a top end rebuilt is a risk!!! the low end may not last for ever.....

Gentlemen's http://www.benplace.com/bjp.htm


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