Date:         Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:53:52 -0700
Reply-To:     Jim Thompson <jim@KARMANNGHIA.COM>
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From:         Jim Thompson <jim@KARMANNGHIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: vanagon Digest - Please trim replies - cofap pistons reply
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I'll second jimt's recommendation.  I have utilized many an engine rebuild,
mostly air cooled for the past thirty years with COFAP p&c's.  Got a lot of
respectable mileage out of COFAP, despite the misgivings of others I've
encountered.  The problem is that some Brazilian made items justifiably
receive a bad rap because of poor quality in manufacture, workmanship and
fit, so the good stuff that is coming out of Brazil is wrongfully being
"lumped" in with the bad.  I couldn't begin to estimate the number of hours
spent in "cherry-picking" thru Brazilian-made products when researching on
what to carry and sell when I was in the business for 20+ years on my own.
I'm sure other vendors (on and off this list) spend an enormous time making
sure that if a Brazilian (or other 3rd world country) is to be offered, that
it is the best quality they can get (OTOH.  COFAP, along with MAHLE is OEM
to the VW factories in Brazil, Mexico and elsewhere in the world where they
have produced the Air Cooled variety.  When doing parts research, I quickly
learned that there were two kinds of Brazil made parts - OE VW (or OE made
for VW's use) and Aftermarket Brazil.  Never really had a problem with the
OE stuff, but most Aftermarket Brazil was (and still is) garbage

My 2.1 utilizes COFAP p&c's and have never had a problem with them.

YMMV

Jim Thompson
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
oldvolkshome@earthlink.net
jim@karmannghia.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "jimt" <wetwesty@TACTICAL-BUS.INFO>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: vanagon Digest - Please trim replies - cofap pistons reply


I know of several rebuilds using them.  I have had no problems with them
myself for air cooled rebuilds.  They are cheaper yes.  Will they make it as
long as factory orig, maybe not.  Will they make it long enough. Most likely
.. as some probably arent going to be around in 100k miles on the vehicle
anyway.
jimt

On 10/28/04 11:38 AM, "Don Williams" <williams@FIRE.BIOL.WWU.EDU> wrote:

> I don't want to open a can of worms, but, candidly, are these piston sets
> good?  I want to order a set, but I have bad things about cofap (like some
> people refuse to sell them.
>
> At 12:00 AM 10/28/04 -0400, you wrote:

>>
>>> From: scott lyons <slyons@germansupply.com>
>>> Date: October 27, 2004 3:12:05 PM EDT
>>> To: <type2@type2.com>
>>> Subject: [T2] 1.9l Vanagon P&C Blowout Sale
>>>
>>> List,
>>>
>>> We have some Vanagon 1.9l Piston and Cylinder Sets at a special blowout
>>> price.
>>>
>>> These are for 83-85 waterboxer engines. The sets are new, in shelf worn
>>> packaging but the parts are perfect. They are COFAP, made in Brazil.
>>>
>>> Price is 220.00 $CAD, which is close to $US 180.00. We have 10 sets
>>> and when
>>> they are gone, they are gone. Anyone who buys three or more sets gets
>>> free
>>> shipping within continental USA and Canada.
>>>
>>> Since I am not a member of the Vanagon list, perhaps someone who is
>>> might be
>>> able to forward this message there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott Lyons
>>>
>>> http://www.germansupply.com
>>>


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