Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:37:11 -0500
Reply-To: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Aux fuel tank update.
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Simplest is best. I had a customer come in that made his own aux tank.
It was around 12-15 gallons capacity. It looked like a long coffin
shape and was mounted (in a 2wd Vanagon) on the passenger side of the
van aproximately the length of the sliding door and right in that area
underneath the van. His filler neck just came up inside the passenger
side front wheel well and was easy to get to and required no body work.
The tank had a simple transfer pump on it so there were no problems with
venting, etc. Basically it would be like pouring extra gas into your
tank while you were going down the road. He would run the pump until it
pumped the main tank up again and then shut the pump off. All while he
was still driving. He took several trips to Alaska and said this
feature came in very handy.
Just FYI.
Thanks,
Ken Wilford
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of David Marshall
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:15 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Aux fuel tank update.
This tank is designed to be a Diesel / SVO tank [Straight Veggie Oil]
with an optional heater that uses the coolant to get the SVO to a higher
temp to make it less viscous. My plans are for an air tight system with
a one way valve that only allows air into the tank so that a vacuum is
not created when the volume of fuel goes down. There will be a vent
from the tank to just before the neck so that when you are filling it,
the air can get easily displaced. I am wondering if there is more to
CARB certification that what Transport Canada wants to see, an air tight
system that will not release vapours. I think it will work just fine
with gasoline, but it isn't the main objective for this project.
On a similar note, does anyone have the expansion rate of Diesel and
Canola oil?
David Marshall
Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road
Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Dennis Haynes
Sent: November 1, 2004 7:26 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Aux fuel tank update.
I'm not sure about Diesel requirements but my 2004 Diesel motor home
does not have any uncontrolled vents for the fuel tank. In fact, the
fuel cap is sealed by 0-ring. For gasoline, part of the certification
process includes the max fuel capacity and the vapor recovery system. I
doubt there is an easy, legal, certifiable way to add fuel capacity,
especially for gasoline.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of David Marshall
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:03 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Aux fuel tank update.
Volks,
My first prototype auxiliary fuel tank is assembled, made from 3mm
aluminium, 8mm output and inputs, undecided filler opening, 8mm vent /
overflow attachment, provision for a VDO fuel level sender... coming
along nice! However, I need some suggestions for a filler neck, filler
cap system that would work with the larger Diesel pump nozzles and not
take a lot of fancy work or money to install in the Vanagon. Basically
I want to cut a hole in the body, fasten it that hole and run pipe to
the tank along with a 2nd pipe for the vent. The 2WD setup requires
some fancy notches in the body work. This neck / cap assembly has to be
available new and fairly inexpensive as if I do decide to put this tank
into production, I want to be able to use all new parts. I am thinking
of, for my Syncro, installing the filler opening where the 2WD filler
is, on 2WDs I am not sure... it will be a long pipe run to make it go
where the Syncro filler is, can't put it where the DoKa Syncro is
because if you open the sliding door during fill up it won't be pretty.
On the environment front, is there any resources to see what it would
take to make a setup like the EPA / CARB compliant?
Tanks in advance! :-)
David Marshall
Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road
Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca
Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160
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