Date:         Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:37:30 -0700
Reply-To:     Gnarlodious <gnarlodious@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Gnarlodious <gnarlodious@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Largest diameter... failures in politics.
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Entity Jack spoke thus:

> Gnarlie,
>
> Your attempt to twist this into a partisan bash is not appropriate!
 You sound like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage when you talk that way.

Jack. I don't know what your politics are and I don't care. Every statement
is not about "bashing" the other guy.

It's reasonable to expect an auditable ballot with a receipt you can take
home with you. Nothing partisan about that issue. It just so happens that
the same corporations who make the voting machines lobby against their own
regulation. That, to me, is a serious threat to the election process.

-- Gnarlie


> As for my caution regarding "Bev Harris" (not K. Harris), anyone can spend
> the same 45 minutes I did using Google - there's plenty to read.  I
> carefully avoided stating any specifics.  But anyone that's been around
> understands that people sometimes have hidden agendas while pretending to be
> neutral.  I have a real concern based upon my reading.  YMMV
>
> As for electronic voting, there have been hundreds of well researched papers
> by highly qualified people warning about the premature push into EV, even
> without considering connecting to the internet.  No need to rehash that
> here.  Let's just hope for the best.
>
> My last comment to the list.
>
> //Jack
>
>
> Date sent:          Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:14:26 -0700
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> From:               Gnarlodious <gnarlodious@EARTHLINK.NET>
> Subject:            Re: Largest diameter... failures in politics.
> To:                 vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>> Entity Jack spoke thus:
>>
>>> Be very careful!  The principal (Bev Harris) in blackboxvoting.org is
>>> hardly non-partisan.  //jack
>> In my observation she is nonpartisan. Her campaign is against the big 3
>> corporations that make and manage the voting machines. She promotes no
>> agenda regarding political issues other than that.
>> It just so happens that "The Big 3" have close ties to the Bush
>> administration, maybe that's the "partisanship" you should be looking at.
>>
>> -- Gnarlie
>>
>>
>>>> non-partisan posting....
>>>>
>>>> http://www.blackboxvoting.org/?q=node/view/78#breaking
>>>>
>>>> sorry, this was kind of alarming.
>>>>
>>>> if you are in a state with electronic voting, make sure that you ask
>>>> the pollsters if they've been made aware of this issue.
>>>>
>>>> remember to vote today. it's your civic duty.
>>>>
>>>> please- no partisan posts or replies.
>>>>
>>>> that is all.
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