Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 03:06:04 -0600
Reply-To: Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
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From: Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
Subject: Re: mass air flow sensor adapted to a vanagon
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Bob:
Is this rocket science? How much different is the Bosch system that uses
the hotwire system? Heck, Volvo was using them in 1987. couldn't
someone just come up with an interface? Maybe use the whole Volvo ECU?
Maybe the whole system? The ECU doesn't know what engine it's on but for
the signals it gets from the sensors. Maybe there is a better baseline
to start from than a 1987 Volvo, though. I don't think it has any spark
management (advance map).
Oh, better yet: Jack up the Vanagon radiator cap, roll the whole Volvo
under it. At least one listmember has done so!
Al Brase
ROBERT DONALDS wrote:
> These boys are capitalists
> and they intend to market there product so the wont give there work and
> knowledge out for free
> flow diagram goes like this signal in from the mass air sensor threw the
> micro processor to the ecu
> they di say that the increase in air flow with this change alone was
> equal
> to adding 1 pd of boost as in turbo boost
> I hope to add one to my daily driver as soon as they start making copys
> that's all folks
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Zeno" <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: mass air flow sensor adapted to a vanagon
>
>
>> Sound interesting. Could you first find from them, a schematic, or
>> at least a flow diagram, for us to check out.
>>
>>
>> Eric 86-VW4x4
>> vw4x4@fyi.net 86-SS Syncro
>> Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler
>> 92-Jetta GWC
>> www.fyi.net/~vw4x4/vw4x4.htm
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, ROBERT DONALDS wrote:
>>
>>> Fellow vanagon types
>>> I last Saturday I loaned my 90 automatic van out for the Alfa test of a
>>> project that included a conversion from the stock vain type air flow
>>> meter to a Ford mass air flow sensor. Three young guys have developed a
>>> micro processor that reads the ford data and converts it to a useful
>>> signal that the fairly outdated digifant system can use. I can hear you
>>> now politely saying that's nice but why bother. Well it seems that
>>> these
>>> three whippersnappers Also developed there own flow bench and did a
>>> little testing of the 2.1 air meter alone then added the boot and the
>>> lower part of the air filter box guess what the air flow rate
>>> dropped in
>>> 1/2 with the addition of the boot and the lower filter housing.. That
>>> alone is huge but even better the mass air flow meter can be tuned from
>>> the drivers seat and they are looking at the option to tuning itself
>>> with
>>> the aid of a wide band oxy sensor that they might offer out on loan
>>> with
>>> the purchase there unit.
>>> I drove this to the pizza shop and was impressed both by the fact that
>>> they had a working model straight off the bench and that they
>>> adapted to
>>> the minor changes they found the unit needed as they started and tuned
>>> the van. I was also impressed with the throttle response and power off
>>> the line the van spun the tires in my dirt driveway as I taped on the
>>> pedal to get out on the street. My van did not do that before. We are
>>> arranging a time to dyno test this unit both on the stock 90 automatic
>>> van and on the Boston Bob big valve digijet race camper in the next few
>>> days
>>> I promise to keep you posted
>>>
>>>
>>> going faster miles an hour with the radio on
>>> I remain
>>>
>>> Bob Donalds
>>> Boston Engine Exchange
>>>
>>> all rights reserved
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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