Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 18:22:40 -0500
Reply-To: ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
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From: ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: Video system for Vanagon sale (Canceled)
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my apololgies to Chris I did not relize that the email was not on (From) the
list
Bob Donalds
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From: <aircooledchris@eucasafari.vendioweb.com>
To: "BenT Syncro" <syncro@GMAIL.COM>; "ROBERT DONALDS"
<donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Video system for Vanagon sale (Canceled)
> My apologies to the list and Ken for this coming back around, I never sent
> this to the entire list when I emailed those comments to Bob, he took it
> upon himself to bring ya'll into the loop on this.
>
>
> A. (as mentioned above) Kudos to Boston Bob for CC'ing the entire list on
> his reply. Im sure everyone appreciates the extra effort you put into
> making everyone else aware of what a fantastic point you were attempting
> to make to me, as well as for dragging this thread through the mud a
> little further. Just remember, I replied to you specifically to comment on
> what was said, trying to avoid dragging Ken through any more of this
> stuff, you were the one that threw it all back to onto the list for all to
> see again.
>
> What are you trying to service here, your own points or Kens reputation?
>
> B. I guess those of us that saw this as kind of a shoddy thing to do, as
> well as Ken himself now (per his apology) - just don't see Bob or BenT's
> wisdom here. Bottom line, you guys make money off of things that are older
> and harder to come by, and should rightfully be entitled to not just
> making an honest living, but occasionally gouging those that you purport
> to help. After all, gotta feed the kids, we should be eternally grateful.
> Look, if you weren't, someone else would be, get off the high horse
> already, your just a businessman like anyone else in any other field, and
> there are right ways and wrong ways to go about business. I hope that deep
> down, you really do see the difference in this particular situation.
> Nobody, myself included, ever said there shouldn't be some profit in doing
> what you guys do, don't twist this into something else. Nobody rides for
> free, and I think we all understand that perfectly well here.
>
> I have nothing whatsoever against Ken, its just that when this all came to
> light, tacking a fairly large amount of money to a deal anyone that's
> online could receive (Vs some actual hookup he had on these units) did
> seem a little unfair, and I think even Ken saw that, hence the apology.
>
> Sure, everyone should watch their own backs, but I thought the point of
> this community was to help each other and discuss vanagons and things
> going on in the vanagon community. If someone takes something off-list, I
> think it should stay that way. Additionally, ill say that I don't support
> whomever Ken replied to personally sending what he had to say to the whole
> list. That's certainly what ended up setting most of those that were upset
> about this off in the first place, outside of he who pointed out the deal
> at Computergeeks, but it was still wrong to do. A simple warning that a
> better deal could be found would suffice I think, after all, were just
> trying to help each other out, or most of us are anyway.
>
> These are simply my own opinions on this matter, and don't reflect the
> opinions or feelings of anyone else. If you would like to continue this
> discussion further, feel free to email me back directly, but lets please
> kill this from the list now, there's no need to point out your thoughts or
> feelings about my comments to the whole community, im pretty sure they
> don't care.
>
> unless of course they are daytime TV addicts. we've got drama in here you
> can get on GH or Days. ;p
>
> best,
> cr
>
>
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