Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:19:30 -0500
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From: Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject: Re: Fox engine in Vanagon
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The 1993 fox had a compelely different fuel syytem. It was upgraded
to digifant in I think 1990. The HP's I'm sure are not up to the
Jetta/Golf motor.
Dennis Haynes wrote:
>The Fox is actually a great little cheap to keep car. I have an '88 I
>picked up off an older woman with only 14,470 miles on it last spring.
>It now has almost 25,000. This engine will probably go over 200K with
>ease in this application. The Fox engine is a bit torquey at low RPM but
>it is worthless near 4,000 RPM and beyond. This is due mostly to the
>restricted exhaust, unique cam, and small air plate in the fuel
>distributor. I think this engine is a poor choice for the Vanagon unless
>you at least make some gearing changes.
>
>Since you will still need adapters, mounts, exhaust etc., I suggest
>selling the car for as much as possible and using that money towards the
>engine kit of your choice.
>
>Dennis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>Of Jeff Oxroad
>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:34 AM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Fox engine in Vanagon
>
>I've got my little 93 VW Fox with the 1.8L in-line four cylinder with
>80K.
>(It's a CA emissions Fox for the record.)
>
>I just looked up the blue book of the Fox in excellent condition and it
>lists
>for, I think $1200, maybe $1500 retail. (I kind of blocked out the
>number
>because it was so painfully low.)
>
>The engine runs great, although has idled a little rough for my taste
>(vibration) since I got the Fox at 50K three years ago. So I'm thinking
>when I'm
>ready to upgrade the Fox in about 6 months for another daily driver what
>about
>swapping the Fox engine into my Vanagon.
>
>Is the Fox engine markedly different than the Jetta engine. I think
>they're
>both 1.8 liter (?) If they're different any ideas why I wouldn't want
>the Fox
>engine?
>
>Sure I'd like to put a Subaru engine in there, but you see the Fox swap
>would
>be cheaper, save me the hassle of selling the Fox and the sadness of
>collecting a mere $1500 for it, if that. Truth is most of the Fox
>components don't
>seem to want to go much beyond 100K. And maybe the engine feels the same
>way-so
>not worth swapping.
>
>Seems I read Ben T has a Fox engine in a bus--maybe (?)
>
>I'm just kicking around the idea at this point, but any comments
>welcome.
>
>
>Best,
>Jeff
>83.5 Westfalia
>LA,CA
>
>
>
>
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