Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:44:46 -0600
Reply-To: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Is it just me,
or? Re: Your message to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
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I get these from these from the LISTSERV all along ..... more frequently
now than in the past.
John Rodgers
88 GL Driver
Robert Fisher wrote:
> I get these all the time... haven't sent a command/request message in
> dunno
> when. Pretty sure I'm not on the poop list.
> Any theories? Happening to anyone else?
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)"
> <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:01 AM
> Subject: Your message to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>
>> Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:01:33
>>
>> Your message to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM has been
>> forwarded to
>> the "list owners" (the people who manage the vanagon list). If you
>> wanted
>> to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and you can
>> ignore
>> the remainder of this message. If you were trying to send a command
>> for
>> the computer to execute, please read on.
>>
>> The vanagon list is managed by a ListServ server. ListServ
>> commands
>> should always be sent to the "ListServ"
>> address, ie
>> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. ListServ never tries to process messages
>> sent
>> to the vanagon-request address; it simply forwards them to a human
>> being,
>> and acknowledges receipt with the present message.
>>
>> The "listname-request" convention originated on the Internet a long
>> time
>> ago. At the time, lists were always managed manually, and this
>> address
>> was defined as an alias for the person(s) in charge of the mailing
>> list.
>> You would write to the "listname-request" address to ask for
>> information
>> about the list, ask to be added to the list, make suggestions about
>> the
>> contents and policy, etc. Because this address was always a human
>> being,
>> people knew and expected to be talking to a human being, not
>> to a
>> computer. Unfortunately, some recent list management packages
>> screen
>> incoming messages to the "listname-request" address and
>> attempt to
>> determine whether they are requests to join or leave the list. They
>> look
>> for words such as "subscribe", "add", "leave", "off", and so on. If
>> they
>> decide your message is a request to join or leave the list, they
>> update
>> the list automatically; otherwise, they forward the message to the
>> list
>> owners. Naturally, this means that if you write to the list owners
>> about
>> someone else's unsuccessful attempts to leave the list, you stand
>> good
>> chances of being automatically removed from the list, whereas the
>> list
>> owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from
>> this.
>> There is no reliable mechanism to contact a human being for
>> assistance,
>> and you can never be sure whether your request will be interpreted
>> as a
>> command or as a message to the list owners. This is why ListServ uses
>> two
>> separate addresses, one for the people in charge of the list and one
>> for
>> the computer that runs it. This way you always know what will
>> happen,
>> especially if you are writing in a language other than English.
>>
>> In any case, if your message was a ListServ command, you should
>> now
>> resend it to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. The list owners know that
>> you
>> have received this message and may assume that you will resend
>> the
>> command on your own. You will find instructions for the most
>> common
>> administrative requests below.
>>
>> +---------------------+
>> | TO LEAVE THE LIST |
>> +---------------------+
>>
>> Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
>> (not
>> the subject line), write: SIGNOFF vanagon
>>
>> +--------------------+
>> | TO JOIN THE LIST |
>> +--------------------+
>>
>> Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
>> (not
>> the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE vanagon
>>
>> +------------------------+
>> | FOR MORE INFORMATION |
>> +------------------------+
>>
>> Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
>> (not
>> the subject line), write: "HELP" or "INFO" (without the quotes).
>> HELP
>> will give you a short help message and INFO a list of the documents
>> you
>> can order.
>
>
>
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