Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 09:22:07 -0700
Reply-To: Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Fox engine in Vanagon
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My $0.02:
The TIICO is a 118 hp, 10:1 comp. ratio, 1.8 litre, 2.0 litre head. The
motor you've got fits one of these:
Displacement 1781 cc (1.8 L)
(109 cu. in.) 1781 cc (1.8L)
(109 cu. in.) 1781 cc (1.8L)
(109 cu. in.)
Bore x stroke 81.0 mm x 86.4 mm
(3.19 in. x 3.40 in.) 81.0 mm x 86.4 mm
(3.19 in. x 3.40 in.) 81.0 mm x 86.4 mm
(3.19 in. x 3.40 in.)
Compression Ratio: 9.0:1 9.0:1 9.0:1
Fuel injection type CIS CIS-E Digifant I or II (see notes below)
Output 81 HP @ 5500 RPM
93 ft. lbs. @ 3250 RPM 81 HP @ 5500 RPM
93 lb. ft. @ 3250 RPM 83 HP @
xx lb. ft. @
That engine, especially with 80K already on it, IMO, doesn't sound like a
good investment for the effort
and headache of transferring wiring harness, figuring out an adapter. Sounds
to me like you've got a better
piece of transportation/2nd car with the Fox than a conversion/transplant
candidate. The only "complaint"
you seem to have about the Fox now is the vibrating engine, and you're
talking about taking that "problem"
and putting it in your van??
Opinion: Drive the Fox into the ground, save all the $$ you can for a
conversion and use one of the proven-
to-work options, whether boxer 2.1L, Subie 2.2, 2.5, 3.0, 3.3, TIICO, etc.
down the road.
As I said, just my $0.02
Bob Stevens
'87 Westy Syncro
http://groups.msn.com/BobsPhotoShare
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tiico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Oxroad" <Oxroad@AOL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:33 AM
Subject: Fox engine in Vanagon
> I've got my little 93 VW Fox with the 1.8L in-line four cylinder with 80K.
> (It's a CA emissions Fox for the record.)
>
> I just looked up the blue book of the Fox in excellent condition and it
> lists
> for, I think $1200, maybe $1500 retail. (I kind of blocked out the number
> because it was so painfully low.)
>
> The engine runs great, although has idled a little rough for my taste
> (vibration) since I got the Fox at 50K three years ago. So I'm thinking
> when I'm
> ready to upgrade the Fox in about 6 months for another daily driver what
> about
> swapping the Fox engine into my Vanagon.
>
> Is the Fox engine markedly different than the Jetta engine. I think
> they're
> both 1.8 liter (?) If they're different any ideas why I wouldn't want the
> Fox
> engine?
>
> Sure I'd like to put a Subaru engine in there, but you see the Fox swap
> would
> be cheaper, save me the hassle of selling the Fox and the sadness of
> collecting a mere $1500 for it, if that. Truth is most of the Fox
> components don't
> seem to want to go much beyond 100K. And maybe the engine feels the same
> way-so
> not worth swapping.
>
> Seems I read Ben T has a Fox engine in a bus--maybe (?)
>
> I'm just kicking around the idea at this point, but any comments welcome.
>
>
> Best,
> Jeff
> 83.5 Westfalia
> LA,CA
>
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