Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:00:21 -0600
Reply-To: Chuck Reisinger <chuckphoto@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Chuck Reisinger <chuckphoto@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Is it just me,
or? Re: Your message to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
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I'm also getting these...why?
Thanks
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Fisher" <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:45 PM
Subject: Is it just me, or? Re: Your message to
vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> I get these all the time... haven't sent a command/request message in
dunno
> when. Pretty sure I'm not on the poop list.
> Any theories? Happening to anyone else?
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)"
> <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:01 AM
> Subject: Your message to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>
> > Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:01:33
> >
> > Your message to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM has been forwarded
to
> > the "list owners" (the people who manage the vanagon list). If you
wanted
> > to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and you can
ignore
> > the remainder of this message. If you were trying to send a command
for
> > the computer to execute, please read on.
> >
> > The vanagon list is managed by a ListServ server. ListServ
commands
> > should always be sent to the "ListServ" address,
ie
> > LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. ListServ never tries to process messages
sent
> > to the vanagon-request address; it simply forwards them to a human
being,
> > and acknowledges receipt with the present message.
> >
> > The "listname-request" convention originated on the Internet a long
time
> > ago. At the time, lists were always managed manually, and this
address
> > was defined as an alias for the person(s) in charge of the mailing
list.
> > You would write to the "listname-request" address to ask for
information
> > about the list, ask to be added to the list, make suggestions about
the
> > contents and policy, etc. Because this address was always a human
being,
> > people knew and expected to be talking to a human being, not to
a
> > computer. Unfortunately, some recent list management packages
screen
> > incoming messages to the "listname-request" address and attempt
to
> > determine whether they are requests to join or leave the list. They
look
> > for words such as "subscribe", "add", "leave", "off", and so on. If
they
> > decide your message is a request to join or leave the list, they
update
> > the list automatically; otherwise, they forward the message to the
list
> > owners. Naturally, this means that if you write to the list owners
about
> > someone else's unsuccessful attempts to leave the list, you stand
good
> > chances of being automatically removed from the list, whereas the
list
> > owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from
this.
> > There is no reliable mechanism to contact a human being for
assistance,
> > and you can never be sure whether your request will be interpreted as
a
> > command or as a message to the list owners. This is why ListServ uses
two
> > separate addresses, one for the people in charge of the list and one
for
> > the computer that runs it. This way you always know what will
happen,
> > especially if you are writing in a language other than English.
> >
> > In any case, if your message was a ListServ command, you should
now
> > resend it to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. The list owners know that
you
> > have received this message and may assume that you will resend
the
> > command on your own. You will find instructions for the most
common
> > administrative requests below.
> >
> > +---------------------+
> > | TO LEAVE THE LIST |
> > +---------------------+
> >
> > Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
(not
> > the subject line), write: SIGNOFF vanagon
> >
> > +--------------------+
> > | TO JOIN THE LIST |
> > +--------------------+
> >
> > Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
(not
> > the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE vanagon
> >
> > +------------------------+
> > | FOR MORE INFORMATION |
> > +------------------------+
> >
> > Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
(not
> > the subject line), write: "HELP" or "INFO" (without the quotes).
HELP
> > will give you a short help message and INFO a list of the documents
you
> > can order.
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