Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 15:16:46 -0800
Reply-To: aircooledchris@EUCASAFARI.VENDIOWEB.COM
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From: Chris Renz <aircooledchris@EUCASAFARI.VENDIOWEB.COM>
Subject: Re: Video system for Vanagon sale (Canceled)
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My apologies to the list and Ken for this coming back around, I never sent
this to the entire list when I emailed those comments to Bob, he took it
upon himself to bring ya'll into the loop on this.
A. (as mentioned above) Kudos to Boston Bob for CC'ing the entire list on
his reply. Im sure everyone appreciates the extra effort you put into making
everyone else aware of what a fantastic point you were attempting to make to
me, as well as for dragging this thread through the mud a little further.
Just remember, I replied to you specifically to comment on what was said,
trying to avoid dragging Ken through any more of this stuff, you were the
one that threw it all back to onto the list for all to see again.
What are you trying to service here, your own points or Kens reputation?
B. I guess those of us that saw this as kind of a shoddy thing to do, as
well as Ken himself now (per his apology) - just don't see Bob or BenT's
wisdom here. Bottom line, you guys make money off of things that are older
and harder to come by, and should rightfully be entitled to not just making
an honest living, but occasionally gouging those that you purport to help.
After all, gotta feed the kids, we should be eternally grateful.
Look, if you weren't, someone else would be, get off the high horse already,
your just a businessman like anyone else in any other field, and there are
right ways and wrong ways to go about business. I hope that deep down, you
really do see the difference in this particular situation. Nobody, myself
included, ever said there shouldn't be some profit in doing what you guys
do, don't twist this into something else. Nobody rides for free, and I think
we all understand that perfectly well here.
I have nothing whatsoever against Ken, its just that when this all came to
light, tacking a fairly large amount of money to a deal anyone that's online
could receive (Vs some actual hookup he had on these units) did seem a
little unfair, and I think even Ken saw that, hence the apology.
Sure, everyone should watch their own backs, but I thought the point of this
community was to help each other and discuss vanagons and things going on in
the vanagon community. If someone takes something off-list, I think it
should stay that way. Additionally, ill say that I don't support whomever
Ken replied to personally sending what he had to say to the whole list.
That's certainly what ended up setting most of those that were upset about
this off in the first place, outside of he who pointed out the deal at
Computergeeks, but it was still wrong to do. A simple warning that a better
deal could be found would suffice I think, after all, were just trying to
help each other out, or most of us are anyway.
These are simply my own opinions on this matter, and don't reflect the
opinions or feelings of anyone else. If you would like to continue this
discussion further, feel free to email me back directly, but lets please
kill this from the list now, there's no need to point out your thoughts or
feelings about my comments to the whole community, im pretty sure they don't
care.
unless of course they are daytime TV addicts. we've got drama in here you
can get on GH or Days. ;p
best,
cr
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