Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 07:38:49 +0000
Reply-To: Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: List Vendors ignoring people
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I would have to agree. I have had so much spam to my shop email its
disgusting (pun intended). I even got so much spam to one account that I had
to remove the account and start all over. The spam keeps some stuff in the
junk email box. I have even gotten email from list members in my junk email
box. To add to my day; I need to check my junk email to see if anyone I know
sent me an email.
I would have to agree that calling on the phone is a better approach. It
will probably get more attention. I guess some people dont have any idea how
much email others get with questions like: "How much will this cost? I found
it on this other site for this much. Can you install these parts for me?"
and my personal favorite: "Hello, MacDonalds? Yeah I bought this hamburger,
can you make me a quarter pounder? Oh, and I want it to taste good and if I
dont like it can I get my money back? Inlcuding the full price of a quarter
pounder?".
I have sent so many emails back to people about estimates (even calling
GErmany to get pricing), only to have people never call back. The worst is
when people make you spend that time, then they take their car somwhere
else. Then they call you and want you to fix someone elses screw up for the
same price you originally quoted.
I hope some of you inderstand what goes on behind the curtain.
Nothing directed at the list. Its just frustrating sometimes to spend a few
hours to research stuff for people only to have them respond with "Ok
thanks, I'll let you know" and they never call back. Even though you are
trying really hard to get a new customer.
[/rant]
Chris DeLong
Fine Tuning
206.522.5503
www.finetuningperformance.com
Seattle, WA USA
>From: Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
>Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: List Vendors ignoring people
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:04:13 +1300
>
>>I've personnally had some list vendors completely ignore me (even phone
>>calls,
>>and ever after offering to sell me specific parts I requested on the list)
>>and others respond right away in a very helpful manor. I haven't figured
>>out
>>any pattern, or any reason why I would be ignored by some vendors, but I
>>am.
>>
>>I've seen random postings from others this has happened to as well. I'm
>>not
>>sure why it happens. Perhaps list vendors have spam filters that are too
>>agressive, perhaps they just pick and choose their customers, I don't
>>know.
>
>I came across this e-mailing Weddle Engineering (not a list vendor
>but...) when I wanted to order adaptor axles etc. No reply no reply
>no reply... finally I redid the subject: "is anyone home at Weddle?"
>That got a response. Chris weddle replied to say that they get so
>much spam that they prefer NOT to use e-mail and don't really do
>much checking of their in-box, or words to that effect. I think he
>just casts an eye down the list and see if anything catches it... as
>mine did.
>
>Looks like some like Weddle don't use filters and are buried under
>piles of electronic crap; others may use filters which grab all sorts
>of wanted mail... I had this problem with Eudora, and eventually
>stopped using filters.
>
>re e-mails without subject... if the sender can't be bothered filling
>the subject line, why bother opening it?
>--
>Andrew Grebneff
>Dunedin
>New Zealand
>Fossil preparator
><andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
>Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut