Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:49:18 -0600
Reply-To: Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
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From: Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
Subject: Re: Jackin' Up The Van
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Actually, there are 4 rubber mounts there and each bigger than the old
type 4 mounts. Waterboxers use the same parts.
You guys are right, but that's the way I always do it. WAY easier. I
just put a 2x4 on top of the jack and lift in the middle of the engine.
Right where the strainer would be if it were a Type 1 engine.
If they break, it is time to fix them. I've never had one break. BUT,
I'd never forget that it could happen, resulting in sudden unintended
downward acceleration of the vehicle. That's what jack stands are for. I
put the jackstands on the outriggers ahead of the rear wheels, then I
lower the jack slowly to put MOST of the weight on the jackstands.
I then take a hammer and whack each stand to make sure all 4 legs are on
the ground. Then I let the rest of the weght off the jack, but leave it
right there. I then push as hard as I can on each corner. If it falls
now, the jack will catch it. And I don't want any surprises while I'm
underneath. (It seems like nearly every year, I hear on the local news
of some amatuer mechanic crushed to death under his car- I don't love my
Vanagons THAT much!)
Al
Greg Potts wrote:
> Hi Craig,
>
> I can't speak directly for the waterboxer (The seller now has the
> title, and we should have it here in Toronto in 7-10 days) but I can
> say that the 68-83.5 aircooled buses should NEVER be lifted by the
> engine.
>
> In an aircooled bus or Vanagon the engine is connected to the yoke by
> two rubber motor mounts that will tear if they're asked to support the
> weight of the vehicle.
>
> I usually lift by the engine yoke, or by putting the jack under a
> frame member. NOT from the engine.
>
> Happy trails,
>
> Greg Potts
> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
>
> 1973/74/79 Westfakia Conversion **Bob the Tomato** LY3H
> 1977 Sunroof Automatic L63H/L90D
> http://www.pottsfamily.ca/westfakia
> http://www.busesofthecorn.com
>
>
> On 29-Dec-04, at 12:07 PM, Craig Oda wrote:
>
>> Isn't is possible to jack the van up by putting the jack plate under
>> the engine block. I think this is what the "101 projects for your
>> porsche" book recommends. It says to put a piece of wood or something
>> under the engine block to avoid scratching it. Any thoughts on why
>> this wouldn't work on a vanagon?
>>
>> -- Craig
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 22:16:32 -0600, Stan Wilder
>> <wilden1-1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've lifted mine many times from the steel engine yoke that the rear
>>> motor
>>> mounts screw to.
>>> I've never bent one doing it this way but you could also lift from
>>> the point
>>> that the tranny mounts to the front crossbar. I've done this too but it
>>> seems to be about a balancing point and not as stable as the rear lift
>>> scenario.
>>>
>>> Stan Wilder
>>> Engine Ceramics
>>> 214-352-4931
>>> www.engineceramics.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dave Chameides" <docproteus@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:56 PM
>>> Subject: Jackin' Up The Van
>>>
>>> If I have a floor jack and want to raise the van from the center rear
>>> without doing one side and then the other (I donšt want it to tip
>>> side to
>>> side right now) is there a center point that is strong enough to be
>>> a jack
>>> point (keeping in mind that as soon as I get the butt up in the air,
>>> Išll be
>>> jack standing the leafs and letting it rest back down on them).
>>> Will the
>>> transmission hold the weight?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
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