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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:47:37 -0600
Reply-To:     Jim Felder <felder@KNOLOGY.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Felder <felder@KNOLOGY.NET>
Subject:      Re: LP gas question--does this happen to you?
Comments: To: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
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On Dec 29, 2004, at 9:05 PM, Robert Fisher wrote:

> I'm wondering what sort of external/portable device you could haul > around to > use for this. A common trick for folks in the pressure washing > business is > to put a halogen light under their rig (strategically placed and at an > appropriate distance) to keep the water from freezing in the lines and > the > diesel fuel from gelling. Those things can put out a good bit of heat. Yep, creating light from electrical resistance and then using that for heat has got to be really inefficient, though.

> You'd > need a pretty hefty inverter to pull that off, tho. One advantage is > that > the light would have other uses, justifying the space. > What about those 'heater' cords made for wrapping water pipes? Don't > know > how much they draw or how hot they get.

Somebody makes a 12v heat wrap, I'm just drawing a blank thinking about where I've seen it...

> Or how 'bout one of those > flexible/extendable ducts they use to pipe away exhaust (in a shop, for > instance...)- then you could just pipe the engine exhaust over the > thing for > a few minutes... ?

Actually that would probably provide very quick heat. If you had some kind of wrap around the bottle, it would work. You are never supposed to get them too hot, but that shouldn't be a problem with a small pipe.

> Whatever you did, you'd have to be very aware of the thin > line between 'warming your lpg bottle' and 'creating a bomb'. > Just speculatin'...

Right. I like the 12v heat wrap idea because it would be easy to put on a timer, say.

It's not really all that big a problem around here, it's not that cold that often. The real problems come backpacking at those temps, keeping stuff from freezing. But for you guys up where it's really cold, maybe the mixture they sell is more cold tolerant, and maybe because of the mixture it's only a problem down here.

Jim

> > Cya, > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stew" <stew@SWITCH99.F2S.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: LP gas question--does this happen to you? > > >> Jim, >> I live in North Yorkshire, England. Up here were on a longitude >> slightly >> north of Goose Bay, Canada, and it gets pretty cold up on the moors. >> I friend of mine who was a member of the mountain rescue once gave me >> a >> tip. If your LPG won't light because it's too cold, try putting the >> cylinder between your legs and cuddling it for ten minutes to warm it >> up >> a bit. Might not be the first thing you'd want to try on a freezing >> cold >> morning, but it would be a good way to test if it's just the cold >> affecting your gas. >> Cheers, >> Stew. >


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