Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:20:53 -0800
Reply-To: gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
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From: gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Calif Smog Issues
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Tom,
I was told not to fix anything until you've
failed.
Once you are failed by a test only station any worked
done up to 500 dollars was covered less the first 100
dollars. My thought was to have others do the work
up to 500 dollars. Collect up to 400 dollars and fix
anything myself after that. Have a few years since
it just squeaked past smog. Keep me posted.
You must have the oem smog system in place before the
500 dollar clock kicks in. That is they will only
pay for failed parts not missing parts. You may want
to hit the recycle yards or ebay if anything has gone
missing. gary
--- Tom Young <tomyoung1@comcast.net> wrote:
> Gary:
>
> Received notification that my Westy qualified for
> the state a$$i$tance in
> getting it to pass smog. I don't know if my
> attempts to "fix" the problem
> before making application, i.e., having a VW dealer
> set the CO level and
> buying a new catalytic converter from Bus Depot,
> will qualify as credit
> against the required $100 Co-Payment, but I guess
> I'll find out soon enough.
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Tom Young
> Lafayette, CA 94549
> ---------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gary hradek" <hradek@yahoo.com>
> To: "Tom Young" <tomyoung1@comcast.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Calif Smog Issues
>
>
> > Tom,
> > Could me update me how well this program works?
> I
> > am told that part of our smog fees goes to this
> > program and all westys are bound for the test only
> > stations. When I had my westy tested it just
> sniffed
> > past the nox. I was told not to fix anything
> until I
> > actually failed since a hundred dollar fix should
> cost
> > the same as a 500 fix. Hope you prove this true.
> > gary
> > --- Tom Young <tomyoung1@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I've mailed in my application today.
> > >
> ---------------------------------------------------
> > > Tom Young
> > > Lafayette, CA 94549
> > >
> ---------------------------------------------------
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "gary hradek" <hradek@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Vanagon Mailing List"
> > > <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
> > > Cc: <tomyoung1@COMCAST.NET>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:12 AM
> > > Subject: Calif Smog Issues
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > > There is a major advantage to a test only
> > > station
> > > > in california. Go to the DMV site to get the
> > > details
> > > > but if your van is up to snuff on the smog
> > > equipment
> > > > the state will pay $400 toward getting you
> smogged
> > > > after you have spent $100. I am guessing
> that
> > > you
> > > > have already spent the $100 at vw so I would
> > > consider
> > > > taking it back there and ask them what needs
> to be
> > > > done to get this to pass in a test only
> station
> > > and
> > > > can it be done for another $400?
> > > > Keep me posted, gary
> > > > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:07:23 -0700
> > > > From: Tom Young <tomyoung1@COMCAST.NET>
> > > > Subject: Calif Smog Issues
> > > >
> > > > Hi all:
> > > >
> > > > Took my '82 (Federal) to a Test Only station
> and
> > > > failed fairly
> > > > significantly
> > > > in the Hydrocarbons (HC) and Carbon Monoxide
> (CO).
> > >
> > > > I'd installed an O2
> > > > sensor in the crossover pipe but was getting
> very
> > > > funky readings from
> > > > the
> > > > sensor so after failing Smog I took the
> vehicle to
> > > a
> > > > local VW dealer
> > > > and had
> > > > them set the basic air/fuel mixture, which
> they
> > > did.
> > > > Went back to the
> > > > Test
> > > > Only station and tried again. This time the
> HC
> > > was OK
> > > > but the CO was
> > > > still
> > > > too high.
> > > >
> > > > The engine is, I think, mechanically sound and
> the
> > > > ignition components
> > > > are
> > > > all in order with fairly new plugs, wires,
> > > distributor
> > > > cap and rotor.
> > > > I've
> > > > also installed a Pertronix ignitor. The
> catalytic
> > > > converter is new.
> > > > Did
> > > > the oil change thing, brought the car in hot,
> etc.
> > > >
> > > > Question 1: At this point, it seems like the
> > > mixture
> > > > is still too rich
> > > > and
> > > > the answer is to continue leaning it down.
> Agree?
> > > >
> > > > Question 2: Since the VW dealer isn't a Test
> Only
> > > > station and can't
> > > > test
> > > > emissions on a dyno like the Test Only
> stations do
> > > > (I'm told the stress
> > > > of
> > > > running on the dyno tends to push up the
> > > pollutants as
> > > > compared to the
> > > > static idle and unloaded 2000 rpm tests) how
> the
> > > heck
> > > > do you get
> > > > adjustments
> > > > done without just going back, and going back,
> to
> > > the
> > > > Test Only station?
> > > >
> > > > Question 3: I've got my O2 sensor installed in
> the
> > > "J"
> > > > bend of the
> > > > crossover
> > > > pipe, shortly after the connection to the
> > > left-side
> > > > heat exchanger.
> > > > Even
> > > > after VW set the basic mixture I'm still
> getting
> > > > anomalous readings.
> > > > Sometimes when I hook up the voltmeter the
> reading
> > > > will be "high" (like
> > > > .710) and slowly drift upward. Sometimes the
> > > reading
> > > > will be "low"
> > > > (like
> > > > .387) and drift downward. I've watched the
> > > voltage
> > > > move up (and down)
> > > > across the .5 volts reading and it's very
> languid
> > > and
> > > > constantly up or
> > > > down
> > > > without the rapid up and down fluctuations I'm
> > > > accustomed to seeing on
> > > > my
> > > > California vehicle. (I've used the O2 sensor
> in
> > > the
> > > > California vehicle
> > > > many
> > > > times to adjust the basic mixture.) This is
> with
> > > 3
> > > > different O2
> > > > sensors, 2
> > > > of them new. Does any of this suggest some
> > > > fundamental problem that
> > > > I've
> > > > overlooked?
> > > >
> > > > TIA.
> > > >
> > >
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
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