Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:01:22 -0500
Reply-To:     Stephen Steele <steeles@HORIZONVIEW.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stephen Steele <steeles@HORIZONVIEW.NET>
Subject:      Re: insults
Comments: To: vw4x4@fyi.net
In-Reply-To:  <41DE6B81.7030201@fyi.net>
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Sorry List,  I will join in on this one...
Eric:
While Joy, apparently, has had the pleasure of meeting you, I have not.
I believe we did rub elbows at the COVVW show in August. I think that I
watched you at the newly painted green double cab while you verbally picked
it apart. If it wasn't you, they mimicked the words that you later used on
this List when the Dokka showed up FS later in the month.  I would have
liked to meet and talk with you as a fellow Listee (as I have done with
several others).  HOWEVER, as you present yourself on this list I chose not
to.
The words that we type and send here are an indication of our true
personalities. A window to our souls as Vanagon drivers. I'll not go deeper.

The words "stupid, moron, idiot" all are derogatory and potentially hurtful.
While our respective postings do show a lot about us, particularly as
grammarians,  I don't think that they can be used as an indicator of IQ. And
how can any of us pretend to be able to divine another's intellect just
because we disagree on some arcane point of VW mechanics? It puzzles me.
Some of your postings are informative and that's the reason I don't block
your e-mails from my in-box.  But your seemingly obnoxious and boorish
behavior are hard to take and have put a negative pall on the List.
Lighten up!
And I will sign my full name to this...
Stephen Steele
Chillicothe OH

'87 Westy      "Franz"
'82 Caddy VW Diesel P.U.     Unknown future????  SOLD
'90 Carat   "Parts"
'74 MGB  My first car...yep, I've kept it since '74
'93 Chevy S-10
'91 Jetta Diesel   My daily driver
'02 Jetta Wagon VR6  Wife's car
Ex Vans:
'81 Vanagon  from 1985-1990
'91 Caravelle  "Hans"...1995-2003 awaiting new engine
'84 Westfalia  "Fritz" 200-2004 now with Son #1



on 1/7/05 5:59, Eric Zeno at vw4x4@FYI.NET wrote:
> Joy,,
> The word stupid, moron, idiot, all means a given
> level of IQ.  For this guy,  that was a compliment!
> Its friday
> Eric
>> Joy Hecht wrote:
>> From my experience in "list purgatory" for 35 (not 30) days, our current
>> monitor logs in about once a week (hence the 35 days).
>> He also does not seem to feel that rudeness or personal attacks are reasons
>> for removing people from the list.  Only use of certain prescribed words,
>> even when those words are used in a discussion of the list rules, is a basis
>> for removing people.  As many of you have heard from me in p-mail, I consider
>> that to show rather poor judgment in terms of what is harmful to the
>> community and what is unimportant.
>> On the other hand, Eric, you are quite friendly and charming in person. Why
>> on earth do you hide behind such obnoxiousness and frustration on the list?
>> Joy
 :::From: "Eric Zeno" <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
 :::To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
 :::Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:58 PM
 :::Subject: Re: SYNCRO FOR SALE, BAD MOTOR, SEATTLE
 :::> You think your smart don't you?.  Even if the motor is bad,
 :::> I can go out and buy a new one with the difference in price.
 :::> I should not antagonize people like you, but I had to rub
 :::> your stupidity in.   Get a life!
 :::>
 :::>                                            ERic