Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:42:56 -0800
Reply-To: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
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From: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
Subject: Re: model year differences?
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You're right and wrong.
'80-81 Jettas use the older 171 941 821C, however, in '82 the Jetta switched
to the 171 941 821D. The same as the Vanagon.
An early '90 Golf 16V (chassis #: -006600 and earlier) also uses the 171 941
821D fuse box, same as the Vanagon.
As usual with VW, nothing is simple. The list I used was a cross reference
from one of the vendors and lumped a few years together. Another reason to
double check before ordering.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of David Marshall
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:12 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: model year differences?
I'll beg to differ on this one. In 1990 VW started "Central Electric II" so
all fuse panels midway through 1990 on the A and B Series VWs are the same.
A 1991 Golf Fuse Panel will interchange with a 1998 Jetta fuse panel. The
Golf A4 series and Passat B5 series there was a switch to the yet newer
style setup.
There is NO WAY that a 80-84 Jetta fuse panel interchange with a Golf 16V or
a Vanagon for that matter. They may physically fit as they are
dimensionally the same, but he plugs on the back and the relay locations are
entirely different.
David Marshall
Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Jeffrey Schwaia
Sent: January 26, 2005 10:34 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: model year differences?
Shawn,
You're right. It's the same. Here's the short list of cars that fuse box
fits:
Volkswagen Golf GL 89-92 MEX
Volkswagen Golf Diesel 85-89
Volkswagen Golf GTI 16V 87-92
Volkswagen Jetta 80-84
Volkswagen Jetta GL 85-92 GER
Volkswagen Jetta GL 87-89 USA
Volkswagen Jetta Diesel 80-92
Volkswagen Jetta GL 89-92 MEX
Volkswagen Jetta GLI 84-88
Volkswagen Jetta GLI 16V 87-92
Volkswagen Quantum 4 CYL 82-85
Volkswagen Quantum 5 CYL 83-88
Volkswagen Quantum DT 82-85
Volkswagen Rabbit 75-84
Volkswagen Rabbit Convertible 79-87
Volkswagen Rabbit Cabriolet 88-93
Volkswagen Scirocco 75-88
Volkswagen Scirocco 16V 86-88
Volkswagen Van Water-Cool 86-92 MV2.1
Volkswagen Van Syncro 86-92
Cheers,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Shawn Wright
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:21 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: model year differences?
The new fuse box looks very similar to the 85 Jetta style, if not the same,
which is also
notorious for problems. My old Jetta used to slowly drain batteries over a
week or two. After
tracing many circuits the problem was finally solved by swapping the entire
fuse block. It was
fine for many years after that though. They *seem* fairly robust in
appearance, but like many
VW electrical designs, they may just suffer from poor execution/quality
control.
On 26 Jan 2005 at 19:25, Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote:
> Not only is the new style fuse box somewhat complicated, it is prone to
> many failures. Especially for those circuits where the fuse box is
> basically a connection point to get from one harness to another. The
> Pins and sockets on those connectors occasionally overheat, or corrode
> or otherwise go bad. My favorite is the ignition circuit. It goes from
> the key switch into one of the connectors, then out through another to
> connect to the coil and ECU in the back. In and out, and it doesn't even
> go through a fuse! I almost got stuck at a truck stop in North Dakota
> with this. A jumper took care of it. The temp gauge and oil pressure
> sensors also do this trick.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard A Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:01 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: model year differences?
>
> One difference that I haven't seen on any of lists posted
> is the change in the fuse block. I think it coincided with
> the change to the 2.1 in '86. Before--simple fuse block
> with the old-style ceramic fuses; after--very complicated
> fuse block with modern-style fuses and wiring harness plugs
> on the back and relays on the top. (If you don't believe
> it is complicated, open one up!)
>
> Richard A Jones
> Boulder, Colorado
>
--
Shawn Wright
I.T. Manager
Shawnigan Lake School
