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Date:         Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:14:07 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From:         David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject:      Re: aux fuel tanks
Comments: To: Daniel Stevens <dosteven@SYR.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <s209ec78.043@gwia201.syr.edu>
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I have been thinking of putting the filler neck on driver side for 2WDs, but the LPG tanks would be in the way of having the aux fuel tank there. There might be a possibility of running the filler hose from one side to the other... really have to get in there and take a look on a 2WD, which I don't own.

There is no way I would cut a hole in the floor and fill the tank, what if you spilled fuel? A) It would stink, like the veggie oil in trunk of my WVO Jetta now, B) Fire Hazard C) Fume control D) Won't pass a safety inspection, probably due to reason B and C.

The tanks we are building are 4mm thick on the bottom and 3mm thick on the remaining sides. On my heavily off-roaded Syncro camper has a black plastic grey-water tank that sits lower to the ground than the fuel tanks and it is still there good as new. I wouldn't be too worried about small debris coming up and hitting it, the alloy is soft enough that it will bend and not rip if you did impact something minor to medium.

I thought of the idea of a fuel tank in the spare tire well, but the German TuV says no way to that one. If you are in a front end impact, this area is designed to crumple. Put a fuel tank there and you will have fuel all over an already bad situation.

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3

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-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Stevens Sent: February 9, 2005 7:57 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: aux fuel tanks

David, how about on the driver's side in the same location ?

though this wouldn't work with a propane tank there in a westy..

On a 2wd westy, it might have to fuel fill thru the floor, with an access screwplate. this would be fine for veggie/diesel but not for gasoline.. though I'm not a fan of aluminum gasoline fuel tanks anyways, I like the deformation of steel better in a situation that would compromise the tank.. (rut,rock,stump,curb,bike for example)

on a similar note, over this summer i'll be working on making a 2nd fuel tank that will hand in place of the clamshell tire carrier, I should be able to get 10gals, or approx 40L. since my syncro has 30" tires and the spare doesn't fit there anyways. keep us informed, and i'll do the same.

Dan Stevens VWCCNY Syracuse NY 1980 ASI 1.6TD camper 1987 syncro (soon to be 1.8T) =============================================================== From: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA> Subject: Need a suggestion for 2WD Auxiliary fuel tank filler neck location

I now have my prototype 70L auxiliary fuel tank ready for my TriStar Syncro. This tank is made from aluminium, has a great "trap" so you want starve of fuel going down a long hill when the tank is almost empty, has a fuel lever sender so I can see how much fuel there is in there and best of all a coolant operated heat exchanger so I can warm the fuel up for running veggie oil in my TDI. I have a 2WD filler neck assembly that I will use to fill the tank. The tank mounts under the sliding door between the inner and outer "frame". This all works very well for a Syncro as the original fuel tank is filled at the rear of the van and there is a blank spot where there 2WD filler neck is supposed to be. Installing a 2WD filler next is a very logical thing to do here. But, what would be the best and neatest way of filling this tank on a 2WD? There is no real good place to mount a filler neck assembly... or is there? David Marshall Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3


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