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Date:         Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:16:03 -0600
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: MO's
Comments: To: jimt <camper@TACTICAL-BUS.INFO>
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We have ten million immigrants in the US that aren't American Born. They do not hold the same moral values as most of those that I know who are native born. They are simply here for the wealth they might acquire by any means possible. I received a Cashiers Check on Bank Of America for a $7000.00 car I was selling. I took the cashiers check to the bank and asked the Bank Officer to verify the check by whatever means was required. They were stuck in the middle they didn't know how to track their own check #, and didn't contract the issuing branch. They simply didn't have anyone there qualified to be running the branch bank I went to. With this level of incompetence I can see why fraud of all types is such a popular criminal activity. The final outcome on the $7000.00 cashiers check was they called the Police and I surrendered the check with the promise that they'd be in touch. I notified the fellow that sent the check and never heard from him again. Seems that E-Bay is a great fishing hole for crooks and fraud. I've always said that E-Bay was like the wild, wild west with everybody having the potential of blowing you away. On one $1700.00 cash transaction I got about nine counterfeit $100.00 bills. The Post office marked them and declared that I was lucky I hadn't taken them to the bank because they would have confiscated them on the spot. I contacted the guy that gave me the bogus bills and he returned the car and I gave him back his wastepaper. Be warned that anytime you sell something you need to get identification, addresses, phone numbers, license plate numbers and anything else you can get just in case the transaction turns and bites you. It's just welcome to the world we live in ............... not much you can do about it except take extra caution.

Stan Wilder Engine Ceramics 214-352-4931 www.engineceramics.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jimt" <camper@TACTICAL-BUS.INFO> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: Re: MO's

On 2/11/05 6:12 PM, "Max Wellhouse" <maxjoyce@IPA.NET> wrote:

> I just got word that a $750 US Postal MO I cashed a month ago at my local > credit union was a forgery and yes, they pulled it out of our account. Was > wondering if I had cashed it at the Post Office, would the same have been > true?. Good news is that they didn't get the goods. Anybody that lives > near Elsberry MO, I've got a large sack of dog exhaust I'd like to you put > on their doorstep. If I was to ship it frozen, maybe it would "ripen" by > the time it got there. > > DM&FS > > At 12:56 PM 2/11/2005, Chuck Reisinger wrote: >> Sooooooooo....are MO's a good way to pay for goods and services....? >> >> Cheers >> Chuck > > That is the danger of money orders. I found that money orders can take several weeks to clear. On one MO I had waited two weeks and was ready to ship and the computer told me the address was not good. Sent an email out for better address and while I was waiting for the return message I got the email from the bank that the MO was a cancelled deposit. The mail hard copy didnšt get to me for several more days. If you stick a MO in the bank and ship the product is gone and you get stuck for the bounce fees. After a 2nd forged money order and about 50 bucks in fees I no longer accept then at all. Besides customers werent happy when I told them 30 days to clear a MO and 10 business days to clear a check.

Note that echecks can take 3 to 5 business days to clear as well. Wait for the confirmation of clearance before you ship. Paypal always notifies with a warning that an echeck was received but not cleared. Then follows up with a cleared note.

........................................ jimt Planned insanity is best. Remember that sanity is optional. http://www.tactical-bus.info (tech info) http://www.westydriver.com

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