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Date:         Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:42:08 -0800
Reply-To:     mark drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         mark drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: 86 Drivetrain Into 82 Diesel?
Comments: To: Budd Premack <bpremack@MN.RR.COM>
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Budd, the 86 parts will bolt into the 82 shell just fine with a few minor mods. The tranny crossmember is in the same place both years and has the same mounting holes. The difficulty David Yates had was due to the fact that the 82 engines were mounted closer to the tranny crossmember. In 83 the longer 5 speed became available so VW moved all the watercooled engines back some to make room, no matter which tranny was actually fitted. The main shift rod bushing will need to be changed as the different 82 bushing was above the fuel tank and the later one was at the rear of the tank. Remove the 82 bushing and mount the later one in the later location.(send me the NLA 82 bushing please if it is still good). The later coolant pipes are a larger diameter so the passage in the crossmember above the fuel tank area must be enlarged slightly.

The engine compartments are the same size but there are small differences. The 82 used smaller metal main coolant pipes and with a different bend at the rear so the sheet metal has different size and location of cutouts for the pipes and will need minor trimming. The 82 compartment has a battery tray near the right rear tail light and does not have the holes for the stock coolant tank and PS reservoir. With a Subie conversion this is all minor at most.

The steering knuckles determine which caliper and rotor will fit. Use all the later front steering and suspension parts including springs and all shock mounting parts, better for sure.

Since the fuel tanks should be removed for routing the wiring harness and other stuff anyway, evaluate which is in better shape.

Mark

>This question comes from fellow Listee Cary Chiang, who is having computer problems. >.......... >Questions-- >The frame crossmember for the transmission mount seems to be located in >the same place as in a water-cooled van, but is shaped differently >(large hole on driver's side for AC heating duct?). Will a waterboxer >transmission mount (and related type shifter mechanism) bolt on without >modifications? > >Are there any other body differences between early and later vans that >would require modification to my current Kennedy / Subaru setup? Are >the engine / transmission compartment dimensions the same? > >I am considering retaining the non-power steering rack & knuckles to >avoid future rack leakage issues. I know there are differences in the design >of the knuckles, which affect the steering wheel leverage. Will the newer >design '86 front brake rotors, calipers, etc. fit onto the '82 non-power steering knuckles, or will I have to install the '86 knuckles, also? > >Is there any benefit to trying to use the diesel fuel tank, instead of >the '86 gasoline one? (the fittings look different) > >I am willing to live with the early-style slider door mechanism (may >actually be a plus, if I choose to install Jalousie windows), manual >steering, and (maybe) the weaker front brakes. Am I overlooking any >other "improvements" that an '86 body has? > >Thanks in advance! > >Cary > > >


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