Date:         Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:20:56 -0800
Reply-To:     Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
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From:         Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: 86 Vanagon for sale in SF $200
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One possible difference in our experiences is that the vehicles I had with
lapsed registrations never made it back on the road or into the hands of
subsequent owners. Other than that, I dunno- I seriously doubt that the DMV
is giving me any preferential treatment, believe me.
My only other theory is that MM is prevailing upon his former relationships
to amuse himself at your expense. : )

Cya,
Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "BenT Syncro" <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: 86 Vanagon for sale in SF $200


> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:42:31 -0800, Robert Fisher <refisher@mchsi.com>
> wrote:
>> I was told recently by the CA DMV that the fees/penalties are now capped
>> at
>> three years.
>> The DMV won't record your release of liability until they have
>> registration
>> from a new owner or the salvage paperwork- this also according to the
>> local
>> DMV office. Also, they may mention due fees on vehicles you have when
>> you're
>> in there trying to do something else, but they won't hold a new
>> registration
>> or what-have-you hostage to get the fees. There seems to be no
>> enforcement
>> whatsoever as long as the car isn't on the road.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Robert,
>
> I beg to difer. I hold three letters from the Franchise Tax Board on
> vehciles which was sold and a relaease of liability was filed. I had
> to refiule a copy before they acknowledged. One such vehicle I sold to
> Vic from Vanamania (who is in Las Vegas, Nevada). The insisted I
> refile the release of liability before releasing the impending lien on
> my assets for unpaid registration. On another deal, I sold a Scirocc
> and filed the release. When they asked for a refile, I did not have
> the buyer's license number. Within 60 days, they filed a lien with my
> bank and took the fees out of my bank account.
>
> I don't know how they handle enforcement in your area but they
> certainly seem to take a proactive stance in the cases I have been
> involved in.
>
> That Mike Miller should be able to answer these questions. He's a
> former DMV as-- h...informant... errr. bureaucrat.
>
>
> BenT