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Date:         Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:14:36 -0800
Reply-To:     Tim Olmstead <tim@CWO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tim Olmstead <tim@CWO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Engine Still Overheating - Need Advice / Chapter Three
Comments: To: Larry Chase <roadguy@ROADHAUS.COM>
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Hi Larry,

I don't know Vanagon quirks very well but * my first thought is air in the cooling system. I know you said the cooling system was properly bled so it can't hurt to bleed it again. Could the radiator hose be collapsing upon high demand? It can happen. Small block Chevy's have this problem with the lower (intake) radiator hose. * second thought is timing. Excessive retarded timing can cause overheating as well as excessive advanced timing. Does the distributor have a mechanical advance or retard? Is the timing controlled by the computer? * another thought is spark plugs. Did you have them changed recently? Are they the same heat range? * a lean fuel condition can cause overheating. Have you changed the fuel filter lately? Is the fuel pump functioning properly? Is there a possibility that the fuel line is collapsing under high fuel demand?

Larry, hope this helps your pain and frustration.

Tim Sacramento (another hot city)

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of Larry Chase Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:21 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Engine Still Overheating - Need Advice / Chapter Three

Volks

Troubleshooters extraordinaire ... Here's a good one.

Sorry ... Kinda long.

Roadhaus is still overheating.

Picked the "Haus" up from the shop in Phoenix.

We all thought the Overheating problems had been Fixed.

Although I had several minor components replaced ... The major offender was a "impaired" Radiator.

Replaced it with a new Behr unit.

The shop did several idle and around town road tests. All seemed fine. Running temps were a "temp gauge needle" width lower than previous ... what one might expect with a new Radiator.

Said my goodbyes and headed home.

Jumped on the Freeway for a 90 miles drive from Phx to Tucson. After a short distance I stopped at REI for a few minutes.

When I stated the haus up to leave ... The coolant led was on.

Checked the fill bottle and a small amount of coolant had been pushed out and the bottle was full to the top. The Overflow Bottle was nearly empty. The engine temps were still good and hadn't increased at all.

Since the shop was now closed I decided to try and make my way back to Tucson ... Keeping a careful and constant eye on the temp gauge.

As soon as I get the speed up over 45-50 MPH the engine began overheating.

Overflow bottle emptied and fill bottle filled to top. If I keep the speed down to 45 and below ... It doesn't boil over and engine temps stay normal. If I load the engine more and/or increase speed .... Engine temps increase to high levels and fill bottle begins to boil over.

Summary of Repair, Check and Replace Activities:

Fan - Checked / OK Resistor - Checked / OK Fuse for Fan - Checked / OK Combustion Gasses in cooling system checked - Checked / OK Water Pump - Checked / OK Thermo Switch Wire - Checked / OK Thermo Switch - Replaced Plastic Bleeder Ring - Replaced Pressure Cap - Replaced Overflow Bottle Cap - Replaced Thermostat - Replaced Twice Radiator - Replaced

No evidence of water in the oil No visual evidence of water in exhaust

For anyone that's interested ... Here the two previous Postings I made about this problem.

Archive Links:

Engine overheating - Need Advice

http://tinyurl.com/5zhqh

Update on Engine Overheating Concern

http://tinyurl.com/6bwdl

Suggestions on where to go from here would be most welome.

Larry Chase www.roadhaus.com


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