Date:         Sun, 6 Mar 2005 12:22:06 -0600
Reply-To:     Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
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From:         Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: gas prices- a canadian perspective
Comments: To: jimt <camper@TACTICAL-BUS.INFO>
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Methyl alcohol burns slow and cool and I'd expect ethyl to do the same.
In straight methanol applications the richness needs to be increased a
LOT. Some racing type 1 engines using methanol don't even have cooling
fans (midgets).
It's been years, but it also seems like the need to light it off at
45-50 ° before TDC, maybe earlier. An air cooled L-Jetronic engine at 8k
feet is going to be somewhat rich anyway. It seems like a dose of
alcohol might be just the ticket.
Al Brase

jimt wrote:

>On 3/5/05 17:52, "Greg Potts" <Greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA> wrote:
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>>on refineries by about 20%.
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>>The bad news is that alcohol as an additive burns hotter and produces
>>less power than gasoline. My air-cooled buses are going to hate that.
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>>Happy trails,
>>
>>Greg Potts
>>Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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>I can confirm that with tests I ran with my 82westy when it had the air
>cooled engine.  I intentionally added an additional 10 percent alcohol to my
>tank for three alternate tank loads with cruising into the mountains and
>passes above 8k feet. These tanks were then run to almost empty and refilled
>straight from the pumps. My temps went up at the head by about the same
>percentage (10 percent).  Did not get any real loss of power though.
>(wasnąt any to begin with)  oil temps no change.  Still maxed out.
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>Crude measuring method was to get two 1 gallon jugs of alcohol (ethyl) and
>pour 1.5 into tank and then fill with gasoline.  For the next test tank load
>the half jug and a full one.  The final test 1.5 jugs again and poured the
>rest into my daughters jeep tank. (somebody told her to add some tank dri to
>her tank and she wanted to know if I could do it.)
>........................................
>jimt
>Planned insanity is best.
>Remember that sanity is optional.
>http://www.tactical-bus.info (tech info)
>http://www.westydriver.com
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