Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 12:57:01 -0800
Reply-To: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject: Re: gas prices- a canadian perspective
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Take a spin over to http://www.volkswagen.com.br and see what Brazil is
running on... Alcohol!
David Marshall
Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
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Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Robert Keezer
Sent: March 6, 2005 10:42 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: gas prices- a canadian perspective
This is an interesting website- running an engine on
alcohol-
http://www.permaculture.com/alcohol/qualities.htm
Robert
1982 Westfalia
--- Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM> wrote:
> Methyl alcohol burns slow and cool and I'd expect
> ethyl to do the same.
> In straight methanol applications the richness needs
> to be increased a
> LOT. Some racing type 1 engines using methanol don't
> even have cooling
> fans (midgets).
> It's been years, but it also seems like the need to
> light it off at
> 45-50 0 before TDC, maybe earlier. An air cooled
> L-Jetronic engine at 8k
> feet is going to be somewhat rich anyway. It seems
> like a dose of
> alcohol might be just the ticket.
> Al Brase
>
> jimt wrote:
>
> >On 3/5/05 17:52, "Greg Potts" <Greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>on refineries by about 20%.
> >>
> >>The bad news is that alcohol as an additive burns
> hotter and produces
> >>less power than gasoline. My air-cooled buses are
> going to hate that.
> >>
> >>Happy trails,
> >>
> >>Greg Potts
> >>Toronto, Ontario, Canada
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I can confirm that with tests I ran with my 82westy
> when it had the air
> >cooled engine. I intentionally added an additional
> 10 percent alcohol to my
> >tank for three alternate tank loads with cruising
> into the mountains and
> >passes above 8k feet. These tanks were then run to
> almost empty and refilled
> >straight from the pumps. My temps went up at the
> head by about the same
> >percentage (10 percent). Did not get any real loss
> of power though.
> >(wasn9t any to begin with) oil temps no change.
> Still maxed out.
> >
> >Crude measuring method was to get two 1 gallon jugs
> of alcohol (ethyl) and
> >pour 1.5 into tank and then fill with gasoline.
> For the next test tank load
> >the half jug and a full one. The final test 1.5
> jugs again and poured the
> >rest into my daughters jeep tank. (somebody told
> her to add some tank dri to
> >her tank and she wanted to know if I could do it.)
> >........................................
> >jimt
> >Planned insanity is best.
> >Remember that sanity is optional.
> >http://www.tactical-bus.info (tech info)
> >http://www.westydriver.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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