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Date:         Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:19:59 -0700
Reply-To:     Larry Chase <roadguy@ROADHAUS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Larry Chase <roadguy@ROADHAUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vngns ARE junk! Wilder's Law
Comments: cc: Greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA, mark drillock <drillock@earthlink.net>,
          Ben Huot <huotx@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <20050313033110.16C2E3404C@cmlapp23.siteprotect.com>
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Benny, Mark & Greg;

I found a lot to agree with on all three perspectives.

But volks ... Remember these three amigos are some of the most mechanically knowledgeable people in our community.

Perhaps not everyone has the ability to fashion a Alternator Bracket out of scrap metal and bubble gum like Ben did for me In Florida :)

For a point of view from a "Vanagon Maintence for Dummies" persepctive, Here'a my comments;

1) Original Engine ... Ran OK but was a little tired (160K miles).

In retrospect I should have replaced it with a stock 2.1 Boston Engine or North West Connecting Rod engine.

* Benny Boy you are right on.

- Ticco, Subie, TDI fans ... Please "No Flames". I still feel that a trip of such proportions, where you are often in the middle of no-where .. is best served by a stock 2.1L Waterboxer engine that is easier to get serviced.

- If I wasn't headed off on such an extended trip I would have run the stock engine to the end or upgraded to a Tiico, Subie, or TDI.

Footnote .....

I've spent most of my career working in High Tech Manufacturing. In those environments if a machine goes done it can cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars, or more in revenue loss. One of the keys to minimizing "unplanned down time" is "preventative maintence". You try and understand the "Mean time to Fail" on all critical components. You then put a plan in place to replace those critical components just before the fail.

2) Wheel Bearings ... Went thru several sets of bearings on the right rear wheel. Turned out to be a "out of round" Situation with the stub axle. Took and old air-cooled VW mechanic to finally diagnosis it.

3) Quality of spare parts ... I remember many ago Nader used to rant about this. His claim was exactly the same ... He felt parts manufactures sorted parts into three quality categories.

- Best , new car build - Middle, Dealer spare parts - Lowest, third party parts houses.

Can't prove it, but over the years it sure seems to be that way to me.

So depending on whether a person is planning on heading out for a 60k driveabout or staying closer to home base ... I think all these points of view are worth considering.

As I have said many times ... If I factor engine issues out the analysis of my trip ... There were really very few breakdowns.

I firmly believe "Preventive Maintenance" was the right approach for such a long trip by someone with very limited mechanical ability and with a goal not to carry large numbers of spare parts.

But then ... I'm an idiot ... What do I know :)

larry chase Roadhaus.com

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From: Greg Potts <Greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>

Hi Mark, What your email is telling me is that the original parts are much higher quality than most of what's available in the aftermarket. <<<<< Clipped

Mark drillock wrote:

I'm not sure he needed a new engine in the first place. Why was it done? There were other breakdowns that occurred all too soon after he had replaced parts. Wheel bearings come to mind. <<< Clipped

Benny boy wrote:

He did one thing wrong, and he knows about it! Wrong choice of engine....but look now, he as an broken AVP after 9k miles... <<<< Clipped


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