Date:         Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:15:49 -0600
Reply-To:     Jim Felder <felder@KNOLOGY.NET>
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From:         Jim Felder <felder@KNOLOGY.NET>
Subject:      Re: Got Gas?
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Well if that was your intent, I apologize if I got in your way!

Jim
On Mar 18, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Stan Wilder wrote:

> My opening statement remains the same.
> "Not my posting", I just sent it on to you guys in the hopes of
> staving off
> another thread on Optima Batteries, Dual Batteries, O2 sensors or
> Tires.
>
> Stan Wilder
> Engine Ceramics
> 214-352-4931
> www.engineceramics.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Felder" <felder@KNOLOGY.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Got Gas?
>
>
>> But Stan, I don't think this would do any good. The oil companies
>> don't
>> have their prices set by the government, they have their prices set by
>> supply--usually--and demand--lately.
>>
>> No matter where our oil companies would like to set their prices,
>> China
>> and India are saying "send us more." And they will continue to buy
>> more
>> and pay a high price for it because their economies are growing
>> rapidly
>> and will continue to do so.  The price of oil will  continue to rise
>> as
>> a result because we and the rest of the world are using lots and lots
>> of it; we will be competing with China and India now as never before.
>> It's the beginning of the agricultural season around the northern
>> hemisphere and the beginning of the driving season here. It will
>> probably hit $80 a barrel before labor day, maybe as little as $70.
>>
>> As I have written before, India and China are using oil to fuel their
>> economies though agriculture and manufacturing, mainly. We, on the
>> other hand, are using it to haul our obese individual rear ends up and
>> down the highway in the most inefficient vehicles ever devised.
>>
>> The only way out is to become more energy independent. It's no longer
>> a
>> question of "when will we run out" but rather "how can we sustain an
>> oil-based economy in a world where it will rise over the next decade
>> to
>> $100, $150 and even $200 a barrel?" And those prices are assuming that
>> there are no major disruptions for extended periods of time.
>>
>> If our government has an active role in this today, the role is taking
>> the car industry's lobbying money for turning a blind eye to the
>> rampant consumption allowed by excluding light trucks and WSUVs from
>> the standards cars are held to. It's not setting gas prices high for
>> the oil companies to benefit. I am no friend of the oil companies, but
>> I don't see them at fault here.
>>
>> If you want details on the awful truth of how needlessly gluttonous
>> and
>> dependent we've become on oil, check this out
>>
>> http://www.nrdc.org/breakthechain/
>>
>> Also follow the link to Car Talk's Reasons Not to Buy an SUV.
>>
>> Also check out how much waste is created in making a new car and smile
>> at that old one in your driveway.
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2005, at 7:54 PM, Stan Wilder wrote:
>>
>>> (Not my posting, it just came to me)
>>> Hi, Gang:
>>>  I had an idea. Since the government in its
>>>  typical fashion sits on its you-know-what, doing
>>>  nothing about soaring gasoline prices while oil
>>>  companies reap record profits, it's time for us
>>>  all to get together and initiate a campaign to
>>>  achieve a silent but meaningful protest that
>>>  should get results.
>>>
>>>  Here's my thinking: We have to purchase gasoline.
>>>  There are no options. But we do NOT have to make
>>>  any purchases in the service station "convenience
>>>  stores." My idea is to get everyonewe know to NOT
>>>  BUY ANYTHING in a service station
>>>  other than gasoline. You want coffee? Go to
>>>  Starbucks. Need a quart of oil? Go to an auto
>>>  parts store. Want a hot dog? Try
>>>  Wienderschnitzel. Want a Coke? Try the liquor
>>>  store nearby. And so on.
>>>
>>>  If enough people cooperate, the oil companies
>>>  will get the message 'cause we'll be hurting them
>>>  where it hurts the
>>>  most: Profits among their convenience store
>>>  operators who'll cry foul loudly and clearly,
>>>  letting the oil companies know the public is
>>>  taking action to rebel against high prices for
>>>  gas at the pumps. In the words of that famous
>>>  seamstress Ellen McKoy, "You won't know if it
>>>  works unless you try."
>>>
>>>  Just forward this email to as many contacts as
>>>  possible and we can get the ball rolling. But do
>>>  it today. And don't buy ANYTHING in a service
>>>  station store. Only gasoline, because you have
>>>  to.
>>>
>>> Stan Wilder
>>> Engine Ceramics
>>> 214-352-4931
>>> www.engineceramics.com
>>>
>>
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