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Date:         Sat, 2 Apr 2005 07:01:27 -0800
Reply-To:     Shawn Wright <swright@ZUIKO.SLS.BC.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Shawn Wright <swright@ZUIKO.SLS.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: is my tranny near death?
Comments: To: Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@mchsi.com>
In-Reply-To:  <424E5514.40404@mchsi.com>
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That's ok, it was only a theory, and the only one which places the blame on the owner rather than the shop who did the work - I must have been in a good mood :-). (I did none of the work aside from changing the oil, as I do not have the special tools for the transmission). Various other theories, including what you've suggested here I think, were covered several years ago on the list, when I had to deal with the shop, since the r&p failure occurred less than a year and 10k miles after the bearing replacements. They (Autospiel in Victoria) eventually agreed to eat the labour portion of the second tear down, but it still cost me another $900 for parts. Needless to say, I will consider transmission work very carefully in the future, either buying the tools and doing it myself (I can live with my mistakes, but have a hard time living with the mistakes of others who I have paid good money to), or I will take it Darryl at AA. I would have taken it to Darryl before, but the shipping logistics were a problem at the time.

On 2 Apr 2005 at 2:17, Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@mchsi.com> wrote:

> I do not agree about your r&p failure. I'd say the cause of your r&p > failure was incorrect pinion depth or (More likely) backlash after > replacing the bearings. Did you re- set the depth with a pinion depth > setter? The book says you need to I never have, but do set the backlash > and check for contact pattern. > I would concurr about the syncro scratching that Greg is experiencing.. > Synthetic oil and careful speed matching whil shifting will make the > grinding much less. It will last that way for a VERY long time if you > are gentle with shifting. > > Al Brase > > Shawn Wright wrote: > > >On 1 Apr 2005 at 21:20, greg crone <l_levi1@YAHOO.COM> wrote: > > > > > > > >>I've got an 85 westy that has a slight grind when > >>going from first to second. If I wait 2 or 3 seconds > >>it doesn't happen...only if I try to shift right away. > >>Is this the onset of the fabled vanagon syndrome? > >> > >> > > > >No, just standard 2nd gear syncros wearing out, very common on any manual trans. > >Drain the oil, and get 3-4 qts of Redline MT90. It will make a difference, possibly > >enough that you can go for years more before needing to rebuild. However, if you > >find large chunks of metal on the magnet, as opposed to fine metal powder, then you > >may want to consider a rebuild sooner. My ring & pinion failed soon after I replaced > >all the bearings in the transmission. I suspect all the metal from failed bearings (slow > >failure over several years) accelerated wear on the highly stressed ring and pinion. > > > >My '85 Jetta trans ground 2nd gear at 200k. I switched to Redline, and it still shifted > >great at 480k! I have tried many other gear lubes, and Redline is by far the best. > >Shawn Wright > >http://zuiko.sls.bc.ca/~swright > >'85 Jetta D > >'88 Westy 2.1L, soon to be 1.6TD 5 speed > >'82 Diesel Westy > > > > > > >

Shawn Wright http://zuiko.sls.bc.ca/~swright '85 Jetta D '88 Westy 2.1L, soon to be 1.6TD 5 speed '82 Diesel Westy


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