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Date:         Mon, 2 May 2005 19:05:30 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: california smog issues and synthetic oil
Comments: To: gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
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Nox is due to a bad Cat, over advanced ignition timing, or excessive combustion temps or pressures.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of gary hradek Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:32 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: california smog issues and synthetic oil

The reason I think that synthetic oil might help on passing smog is the same reason for doing an oil change before testing. My vanagon has a bit of blow by as in blowing past the rings into the combustion chamber. On the passat I clearly notice that the synthetic has less odor than the dino oil. I think the burn point and the vapor pressure might somehow affect the smog reading at least in the hydocarbon count. My real problem was with nox. I am not sure that synthetic oil would help with nox? gary Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:19:29 -0400 From: tabe johnson <xtabe@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Interesting Synthetic Oil Study

There's no question this guy's car is different from ours, but the trends are interesting. If you doubt the quality of synth oil, have a read.

http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/oil-life.html

--tabe

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Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:30:42 -0500 From: Warren Lail <wlail@OU.EDU> Subject: Re: california smog issues and synthetic oil

Dennis Haynes wrote:

>>I don't think synthetic oil will be all that helpful for passing emissions but there is no doubt that it has benefits. I have been doing oil testing on my vehicles now for about a year and there is no reason not to go 7,500 miles between changes with a good synthetic so unless you are using a lot of oil that alone offsets the cost. Mobil now has"Extended Performance" oil they guarantee for 15,000 miles or 1 year. I think that is pushing things. I did go 13,500 (1 year) in my Fox. My wife's Audi reports indicate about 12k is the limit for that engine which now has 179k on it. 2 weeks ago there where 4 Vanagons here with over 200k on the original engines, (including mine). What did they have in common? Mobil 1 15w-50. Fun Bus even has the original head gaskets.

Dennis<<

Dennis,

I run Mobil 1 15-50 in my 88 Westy, but I change it every 3500 miles. I know that theoretically I can run it longer, but my concern is not oil breakdown, it is that the filter will be overwhelmed. I have been told that oil filters reach their capacity under normal conditions at around 3500 miles. During the summer I drive on dusty roads quite a bit and that also would put more strain on the filter, I think. Have you taken filter life into account in your oil testing?

I run Mahle filters.

Thanks.

Warren Lail 88 Westy "Billy Bones"

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