Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 03:06:12 -0230
Reply-To: Phil Menchions <pmenchions@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Phil Menchions <pmenchions@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Replacing metal coolant hoses with copper?
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Well thanks for all the feedback. It seems it should be OK as long as
the lines in question are isolated as Shawn mentioned on both ends by
rubber hoses to aleviate any stress/vibration.
Still ordering the steel line for T-housing to the oil cooler,
however. I'm still not sure what convoluted logic my mechanic used to
justify this.
I tried searching for part numbers/diagrams of the exact likeness of
the hose in question but came up empty. The Old Volks Home used to
have a page for this but it appears that it is no longer a valid site.
Does anybody know of any sites, etc. (other that ETKA) which would
have this info?
Thanks,
Phil
On 5/2/05, Randy Bergum <organslave@earthlink.net> wrote:
> My 1967 Mini Cooper S has copper brake lines - single circuit too!
> Oh, wait........ I thought this was the British complaint line.
>
> Never mind.
>
> Seems that Stainless would be good, but it is brittle to a degree and may
> not like being formed at corners and ends.
>
> "Titanium.................. uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uhhhhhhhhhh........."
> -- Homer Simpson, 2005
>
> Randy Bergum
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Robert Cardo <rrecardo@WEBTV.NET>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Date: 5/2/2005 8:10:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: Replacing metal coolant hoses with copper?
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > Every vehicle you see on the road ( including your's) has
> > steel brake, fuel, and if applicable coolant lines.
> >
> > The reason being is the steel won't fracture as the copper lines do.
> >
> > Other than a 1948 McCormick Deering farm tractor I have never seen any
> > vehicle use copper for fuel.
> >
> > It's dangerous.
> > Brake lines will swell as the pressure is applied.
> >
> > Very unsafe.
> >
> > I just had a conversation with a friend who just did a frame off resto
> > on a 51 Ford PU for his dad.
> >
> > His dad wanted copper lines to the carb's, because all cars on the road
> > used this.
> >
> > He had a fit--I said he was out of his mind, and sure enough the fuel
> > lines were leaking at the flares at the carbs.
> >
> > Steel lines replaced them quickly.
> >
> > Propane is a different animal, and copper is acceptable for some crazy
> > reason, as is the water lines to the sink.
> > ( plastic flex line is better, and used in all heavy duty air, and fuel
> > lines in all class 6,7 8 trucks and busses )
> >
> >
> > If you don't believe me Tim, pick up the phone and get in touch with any
> > GM, Ford, VW, or any vehicle mfg. or even a FLAPS ( NAPA would be good )
> > and ask them why is a poor idea for brake and fuel lines, let alone
> > water coolant pipes with pressure on it.
> >
> > I wouldn't use it anywhere where vibration is an issue.
>
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