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Date:         Mon, 9 May 2005 23:02:56 -0400
Reply-To:     Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
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Okay. Time for some electrical 101: This discussion covers 86 and later Vanagons. The wiring may be similar in earlier model years, but I make no guarantees.

Most electrical devices work by having a positive current come in to the device, do the work and the remaining current go to ground (voltage differential).

In the case of lights, the work being performed is the transforming of the electrical energy into light energy, via the glowing of (usually) a wire.

This means you need positive voltage in addition to a ground. So the first thing to check is...do you have positive power at the LIGHT BULB when the ignition is on and the switch is turned on.

Get a Volt-Ohm-Meter. This is basic equipment for working on electrical circuits. it is pointless to speculate until you have the basic tools. This is the one you need. You can pick up a cheap one at RadioShack for under $20. The main different in expense of VOM's is features and quality of manufacture. For basic stuff on a car, an el-cheapo one will work for now.

On the 86 and later Vanagons there are 3 wires going to the headlight, with one of those going over to the hi-beam (which has a total of 2 wires). These wires will be Brown (ground), Yellow and White (Right side will have a black stripe on the white and yellow wires). Yellow goes to the headlight, White goes to the headlight and hi-beam.

Pull one side (drivers side or passenger side) of your headlight carrier off the vehicle (held in place with 4 phillips screws). Disconnect the wires to the headlight and hi-beam. Carefully set the carrier with lights aside.

Turn the key switch on. Turn the headlights on. Attach one side of your VOM (which should have 2 wires, one black, one red) to a frame ground (normally you'll connect the black wire to ground.) Connect the other so that you are contacting the metal conductor on the white and then separately to the yellow wire. Did you get any voltage on either (probably not.) If you did, temporarily connect the headlight and/or hi-beam. Did it light? If it didn't. Next check the conductivity to ground.

Switch your VOM from measuring Volts, to measure Ohms. Touch your two probes together so you see what 0 ohms (connectivity) looks like. Some meters have an audio beep setting, which can be nice to use. Now, with the black probe connected to a conveinent frame ground, check the brown wire for connectivity. If it doesn't beep or show near 0 ohms, then your problem is with your grounds. If it showed connectivity, you have a bad light bulb.

If you didn't have voltage at the headlight, you next need to figure out why. The next place in the circuit is the fuse. You can pull the fuse, and measure to be sure there is voltage at the fuse (one side only). I have had corroded fuses that looked good, but didn't conduct electricity.

If there is no voltage at the fuse, you need to look further. Since you have installed relays, the next place is the relays. I'm not going to dig out my circuit of the headlight relays. Suffice it to say, you spliced into the white and yellow wires to install your relays. Check the other side of relays to see if you have power. If you do, then the problem is with your splices, or the relays or the relay connectors. However, it is probable that you still don't have power so...

The next spot is the headlight dimmer switch. This is usually pretty straight forward. A Red/Yellow and a White/Black wire come in to it, and that same Yellow and White wire you've been looking at up to this point come out of it. Check for voltage on the Red/Yellow wire and then the White/Black wire. The Red/Yellow wire should always have power, whether the headlight switch is on or off. The White/Black wire should only have power when the headlight switch is on. If the Red/Yellow wire doesn't have power, you have a problem with power from your battery and I'm not going to pursue that in this message.

BTW, now that folks have gotten to this point, you can see why sometimes your headlights don't work, but do when you pull back on the hi-beam switch...it's because you are bridging from the always ON circuit (that red/yellow wire) to the headlights, through the hi-beam switch.

If the white/black wire doesn't have power when you turn the headlight switch, on we next need to look at the headlight switch. Pull the headlight switch from your dash. If it smells bad (burnt plastic), it probably needs to be replaced, but you can check it for functionality with the VOM. Before pursuing that, there should be a Red/Yellow wire coming to the switch (should have positive voltage at all times. If it doesn't you have problem with your main power coming from the battery. It should also have power from a Black/Yellow wire, but only when your ignition switch/keyswitch is in the ON position. If you have power on the black/yellow wire when the keyswitch is on, but you don't have power on the white/black wire when the headlight switch is on, your headlight switch is bad. If you don't have power on the black/yellow wire, then the next place of failure is the keyswitch. This is the X circuit mentioned in the archives.

The black/yellow wires goes to the keyswitch. This is a switch attached to the place you insert your ignition key (which is the keyed portion). This should have a red wire coming in (with always on power) if the red wire doesn't have power, you have a problem with the main power from your battery.

The black/yellow wiring coming out of the keyswitch should have power when the ignition key is in the ON position. If it doesn't and you have power on the RED line, your keyswitch is bad.

If everything checked out here and you still don't have working headlights go back to the beginning, because you've missed something.


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