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Date:         Thu, 12 May 2005 09:56:27 -0700
Reply-To:     David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject:      Re: ecode h4 headlights
Comments: To: John Bange <jbange@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <6da579340505120934e196be4@mail.gmail.com>
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"City Light" is an incorrect term. These small 5W bulbs within the main headlamp are "park lights". In Europe, probably the whole world outside Canada / USA / Mexico, the orange markers on the front corner of your van only come on when you signal - they do not come on when you turn on the lights.

My experience with the park lights at night is that you can not see where you are going as they are only 5W and they are not in the forward reflective part of the light. They are there so you can be seen, not so you can see. There is some illumination provided by these and on a dark night at 20km/h in a camp ground you could see a few meters in front of you, but in cases like this, I turn on my fog lights and leave the main lights off.

Cheers!

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3

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-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of John Bange Sent: May 12, 2005 9:34 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: ecode h4 headlights

> My husband would like to put the SA grill in our 87 Syncro. Do all the > H4 type lights come with city lights, or do we need to look for a > certain brand? It appears from a quick glance at Volkscafe's site that > the grill comes with lights, but my memory could be faulty. > I'm not sure what the correct usage of "city lights" is, actually. The SA grill comes with the two smaller inner H1 lights, which I've heard variously called "driving lights", "city lights", and "running lights". The outer 7" round lights (and their required mounting buckets) usually have to be procured separately when you get the SA grill (busdepot SA grill comes with two outer lights, but not their buckets).

Now, the thing I'M looking for is outer-type 7" lights that have a small bulb inset in the top part of the reflector, separate from the hi-lo bulb; they appear to be common in some european countries. This small bulb comes on with the parking lights and shines almost straight down and basically just makes the headlights light up about as bright as the parking lights. I understand, though, that they're be plenty bright enough to follow a 5mph campground access road at midnight. Having formerly been a tent camper, I generally feel guilty about circling a campground with my headlights on, illuminating every tent along the way.

John Bange '90 Vanagon "Geldsauger"


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