Date:         Wed, 18 May 2005 13:45:44 -0400
Reply-To:     "Higginbotham, David A." <dhigginbotham@HAZENANDSAWYER.COM>
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From:         "Higginbotham, David A." <dhigginbotham@HAZENANDSAWYER.COM>
Subject:      Re: oil and gas
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Just curious: If vanagons can be converted to run on bio-fuels why can't
tractors and processing equipment?

David Higginbotham
82 Westfalia
Silk Hope, NC

-----Original Message-----
Date:    Wed, 18 May 2005 09:28:02 -0700
From:    Don Williams <williams@FIRE.BIOL.WWU.EDU>
Subject: oil and gas

Right on!!  But remember, when you make ethanol from corn oil, or diesel
from soy, that it uses a rough equivalency of fossil fuel to plant, grow
and harvest the stuff.  So there is no savings---just conversion of  a
fossel fuel product into an agricultural product into a automobile fuel
product.  That is why ADM (Archer Daniels Midland) is such an outrageous
company.  They want to convert corn into ethanol without telling us that
to
grow and harvest the corn, they have to use an equivalency of fossil
fuel!!!  On the other hand, I guess we deserve the ripoffs that we allow
to
happen.  Incidentally, I think I'll purchase another vehicle (Vanagon)
that
gets 16 MPG, while I'm thinking about it.

Don
85 Westy (16 MPG)