Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:58:36 -0400
Reply-To: Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
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Anyone know which states allow Duracool? Anyone else using this stuff?
Chris
On 5/25/05, Vanagon <vanagon@astound.net> wrote:
> You will loose 20percent cooling efficiency with anything but R-12,
>
> All of the alternatives to R12 are 134 mixes.
> NONE are as good as putting in R12 in terms of cooling or reliability to the
> original system
>
> Much info on the net is available on this.
>
> STAY with R12 if you have an R12 system at all costs.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kim Brennan" <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:13 PM
> Subject: Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
>
>
> > A properly working AC system in a late model (86 and later) Vanagon (or
> > Westy) will cool you quite sufficiently (I've traveled across the
> > country, California, Arizona, Texas, Florida. If your system was not
> > cooling sufficiently on R12 you need to find out why before you start
> > exploring alternatives. At this date, I'd suggest taking it to a
> > qualified service facility and 1) have them check it for leaks, if
> > they find them and 2) fix the links. If you live in a state where shops
> > can use Duracool, I'd have the shop convert your system to Duracool. If
> > you don't live in such a state, have them convert your system to R134,
> > then evacuuate the system, and get Duracool yourself and put it in.
> >
> > My Westy's AC can work so well that you'll need a sweater in the front
> > seats. I only have it functioning at full blast for a few minutes after
> > getting into a parked car, then I have to turn the fan down and lower
> > the thermostat. And I have a dark westy (Burgundy) with a dark roof.
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 24, 2005, at 6:53 PM, honemastert wrote:
> >
> > > Curious as to what others in hot climates have done,
> > > and or 'are' doing.
> > >
> > > Tried to make sure that all through the winter months,
> > > I fired up the A/C from time to time. Keep the system
> > > lubricated, keep that precious and 'expensive' R12 in
> > > the system. My plans seemed to be working, until
> > > we hit record highs last week in the 'Valley of the Sun'
> > > (should be fire BTW.. but I digress! :-)
> > >
> > > Anyways, now I have an A/C system that seems
> > > to be cycling on properly, but no cool air (or at least
> > > very little) to speak of.
> > >
> > > Need to get the system checked out for leaks, etc,
> > > but wondered what the consensus was for a 'Westy'
> > >
> > > Even on R12, this system is nothing to write home
> > > about, I'm thinking of just checking, make sure I have
> > > no 'massive' leaks, then go and get my EPA license
> > > so I can buy cans of R12 off of ebay.
> > >
> > > Some folks I've talked to say that even with an 'all
> > > new' system (compressor, hoses, dryer, cleaned out
> > > condenser etc) that the most you can expect is 2-4yrs
> > > between recharges?
> > >
> > > Ideas, suggestions welcom
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > -tim
> > >
> > > 90 syncro westy
> > > mesa, az
>
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