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Date:         Sat, 28 May 2005 18:29:10 +0200
Reply-To:     Florian Speier <groups.florian@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Florian Speier <groups.florian@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: folding kayaks (was Traveling lighter)
Comments: To: Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@ipa.net>
In-Reply-To:  <6.2.1.2.2.20050528110747.045b8290@pop.ipa.net>
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hi

there is a tremendous difference between inflatable and foldable kayaks and canoes - two different animals. klepper, pakboat and ally are foldabes, ie they have frame and skin. they can have similar in-water qualities as hardshell boats. inflatables though are much slower and can be really annoying on lakes if you have to cover distances. inflatables start at $50 and go up to around $1500, foldables can be anywhere between $1000 to $2500(canoe) or $5000(kayak) maybe we should move to pm or a boat list though.....

florian

On 5/28/05, Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@ipa.net> wrote: > A friend of mine paddled the North Sea back in the 50's in an old Klepper T-8. > > DM&FS > > At 09:15 AM 5/28/2005, A. Hurley wrote: > >I've tried to contact Ralph too lately but it bounced. Have a new > >folding kayak called First Light - the bag fits on the upper luggage > >area with room to spare!Made from carbon and urethane... > > > >I also used to lead trips in double Kleppers back in the 80's.... > > > >Andree > > > >On Sat, 28 May > >2005, Joy Hecht wrote: > > > > > It's called a folbot. A kayak list would be a better place to look > > than a vanagon list. But even easier than that, just email Ralph Diaz, > > whom I've copied on this email. He used to publish the Folding Kayaker > > Newsletter and knows pretty much everything there is to know about > > folding kayaks of all kinds, German and otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joy > > > > > > **************************************************************** > > > Joy Hecht > > > and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon > > > > > > For musings about life and the vanadventures: > > > http://users.rcn.com/jhecht/gypsy > > > > > > > > ****************************************************************:::-----Original > > Message----- > > > :::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > > > :::Of No Name Available > > > :::Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:27 AM > > > :::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > :::Subject: Re: Traveling lighter... a goal... Kayak carriers, Lake > > > :::Superior? > > > ::: > > > :::Hi All, > > > :::Back in the day, a long long time ago, in world, galaxies away.... > > > :::I started kayaking in what was called a fold boat. > > > :::German made, I think? > > > :::Fit into one or two small packages. > > > :::Anyone on the list remember these? > > > :::John C... > > > ::: > > > > > > >Andree Hurley > >Viewit.com, Onwatersports.com > >Store Update: > >http://www.viewit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? >


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