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Date:         Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:54:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Alistair Bell <albell@UVIC.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Alistair Bell <albell@UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Seeking "Ice Guard"
Comments: To: rrecardo@webtv.net
In-Reply-To:  <11093-42B208E4-2539@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net>
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Hi Robert,

I used a similar product a few years ago (2001) inside pretty well all of my van. The name was something like "super pro guard" . It was a self adhesive (peel and stick, very sticky) bitumen based product but with blue polyethylene surface rather than the aluminium you mentions and what is pictured on my site on Chris Hinkle's van:

http://www.members.shaw.ca/bilbo/Chrisvan.html

Anyway, the stuff was around 80 bucks Canadian for a good sized (and heavy) roll, about 3 feet wide. It was a shade under 1/8" thick, so I doubled and tripled up on some spots. Was easy to apply, but I think has to be done in warmish weather, the stuff softens and drapes/conforms better. It does make your scissors and utility knife blades all gummed up and messy. Mineral spirits for clean up.

It worked well, really does dampen body panel noise. And It was cheap. I'd recommend it.

Alistair

'82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94 http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/

On 16-Jun-05, at 4:19 PM, Robert Cardo wrote:

<<Flashing tape is generally a 2"-3" roll of 20mil plastic backed bituminous adhesive. Peel & Seal is a 45mil foil backed roofing material available in 6", 12", 18" and 36" rolls. The original Dynamat stuff was (if I recall correctly) the same foil backed adhesive stuff, but only 40mil.>>

Well here is the last and final question then , and I'm only asking this after looking at Dan Reeds web page.

I have used Dynamat, and Q-Pads inside the door's and side panels in my Vans.

Works well.

After installing the Q-Pads in the door's I replaced the stock vapor barrier's. The viscuine sheeting.

OK. The pictures of Dan's L/H door shows that he used this metallic looking tape on the outside surface of the inside of the door panel, which he says is the roof flashing material in leu of the stock plastic vapor barrier .

How in the heck did he get the interior trim panels back on the doors if the material he used is as ( almost ) as the dynamat or Q-Pads?

It seems to me that this would be almost impossible, or at least at best have the interior panels do some bulging.

You see what I'm saying?

Something isn't right with the claimed thickness of this stuff.

But it sure sounds good to me if it works.

Is the adhesive backing as tough and sticky as the expensive sound deadener?


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