Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:19:12 -0500
Reply-To: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: help w/ charging/filling AC
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Interesting thing about R134a.
I've been buying 12 cans per case at Sams club for several years for $16.00
per case.
I notice now that the local grease spot in the front auto stores are selling
the same R124a for $7.00 per 12 oz can.
If your system is properly prepared with the proper seals, suction valve,
dryer, compressor seals and hose the R134a will work as well as the R12.
But............ The EPA is rethinking the safety of R134a so you get to pay
five times as much so they can hire a few more bearcats to campaign for
changes.
Stan Wilder
Engine Ceramics
214-352-4931
www.engineceramics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: help w/ charging/filling AC
> I have done some reading where R134a now has some controversy
> surrounding it, as evidence mounts as to whether it is really all that
> environmentally friendly. It seems that no matter what is done, there
> are problems associated.
>
> If your system has not already been converted to R134a, then perhaps you
> might want to investigate the alternatives pretty thoroughly before
> making the change.
>
> For some time, I considered changing over to R134a, but after a lot of
> reading decided to stay with the R12 for the time being. It does, after
> all perform better and the system was designed for it. My choice has,
> for the moment, settled on Freeze 12, as the best performing
> alternative, should I decide to change out the R12.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Rodgers
> 88 GL Driver
>
>
>
> dusty edwards wrote:
>
> > i'd like to use this R-134 do-it-yourself kit that i just purchased,
> > however i'm not 100% sure if my '90 Westy has been converted or not.
> >
> > i bought the vehicle last summer and had it charged last summer by Ken
> > Morgan, here in Denver..........for those of you that are familiar w/
> > Denver area mechanics. i don't remember much about my conversation w/
> > Ken in regard to this job, but i do remember him telling me that he was
> > going to put a vacuum on the unit to extract whatever was already in
> > there - he then filled it (with whatever) and i paid him about $75...i
> > think.
> >
> > so, i pose two questions:
> >
> > 1. is there a way to tell if the system has been converted?
> >
> > 2. is there a chance that Ken filled the unit w/ R-134 (after vacuuming
> > or cleaning it) to run off of the original system? (would R-134 even
> > work in the old (unconverted) system?) ...if so, can i just refill the
> > system w/ R-134?
> >
> > thanks for your help!!!
> > dusty.
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