Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:47:46 -0400
Reply-To: Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: A/C - Freon to R134 conversion
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I have done the 134a conversions in many Vanagons with the full monty
(compressor, new hoses, new dryer, new expansion valve, new o-rings and
oil, flushing everything out, new fittings, etc) and have just had
Vanagons that used to have R-12 in it and it is like a can or two low,
and just added 134a to the van. Both work. If the compressor is bad or
the system isn't working right to start with the full monty version is
the way to go. If the van was running cool just last summer and isn't
this year, you could probably get away with the "add some R134a to the
system" option.
Example:
I bought an 89 Wolfsburg last summer in Georgia that had been off the
road for a couple of years. I brought my tools down and had it up and
running in a matter of a couple of days, but it was hot and I wanted A/C
as well. It wasn't working and I couldn't bring my A/C tools down to
Georgia with me. So I went to Wal-mart, and bought a charging kit that
came with a couple of cans of 134a, some conversion fittings and a
charging hose. I think it was around $30. Plus a couple additional
cans for good measure. Added a can and the compressor came on. Two
cans and a half and the A/C was blowing very cold. Drove the van for
the rest of the summer and the A/C worked very well.
Just my experience,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
Stan Wilder wrote:
>I can't believe that you guys are getting such a fleecing on A/C parts.
>I bought new hoses matching my old hoses for $220.00, New suction valve
>$28.00, New Dryer about $32.00 and added that under car condenser (I already
>had it). I replace the seal in my compressor for $15.00. Bought ester oil
>for the compressor for $6.00 for 6 oz. and bought 12 cans of 134 from Sams
>club for $16.00.
>The system only took 2 and a half 12" cans for a good charge.
>I borrowed an evacuation pump but could have rented one for $10.00
>I really think you could screw up many times attempting to do it yourself
>before you ever get to the $1500.00 tag.
>
>
>Stan Wilder
>Engine Ceramics
>214-352-4931
>www.engineceramics.com
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Miller" <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:05 PM
>Subject: Re: A/C - Freon to R134 conversion
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>>Had it done. I'm into the whole thing about 1500 dollars and it cools kind
>>of. Still need the long hoses from front to back so I keep refilling it
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>>134
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>>Mike
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>>On 6/28/05 1:43 PM, "David M" <covrambles@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
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>>>http://www.gti16v.org/tb879503.htm
>>>Has anyone had their Vanagon's a/c professionally
>>>converted (as in above link) from R12 to R134 and how
>>>much should it cost?
>>>My Vanagon's A/c used to work well, now it does not
>>>blow cold at all. I'm now in Phoenix, AZ so the van is
>>>virtually unusable from May till October because of
>>>this since its 100+ degrees every day.
>>>Whan I bought my van the previous owner had had the
>>>a/c recharged at a VW dealer and it cost $450. Thats
>>>why I would like to convert to R134, I figure the cost
>>>of frean will kill me.
>>>
>>>PS. I just had the a/c repaired in my 1995 Mercury
>>>Sable and it cost $1900, mostly in labor since they
>>>had to remove the dash and steering column to get to
>>>it.
>>>-
>>>David, 87 Wolfsburg
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