Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:28:03 -0700
Reply-To:     Joel VanderKwaak <joelvanderkwaak@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Joel VanderKwaak <joelvanderkwaak@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: NO BORDERS IN EUROPE, WE DON'T NEED NO STEENKING BADGES!!!!!
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How about we all become Canadian or Mexican citizens? Would sure
simplfy border crossings here in North America.

On 7/8/05, Zoltan <zolo@foxinternet.net> wrote:
> It would be even better if the border crossings would be as it is here in
> the US where you cross one state going into an other, having no border
> posts.  Well, the last time I toured Europe it was a delightful surprise to
> see no border posts and change no money every time.  Traveling in Europe has
> become a great pleasure, including the fact that they don't call the police
> if you park your car in front of someone's house and stay there for the
> night.  Or anywhere for that matter.
> But, as we all see, the progress of peace is not possible until tribes in
> the world become much more similar with respect to small differences and
> with similar economic standards.
> It was, and still is, a problem there and continues to be a task to even the
> differences in those countries with huge investments into infrastructures.
> The same has been started from here towards Mexico and the Central American
> countries.  Very much of an uphill battle since those countries are third
> world economies with no real infrastructure to speak of.  They are closer to
> the men of the jungle in standards than to us.
> Did not mean to write this much, but it is interesting to see why countries
> control borders or elect not to.  It is a puzzle why the Mexican border is
> not controlled, causing so much trouble.
> Now, that's enough.  It is getting too long.
> Zoltan
> The use of the same currency is a big help for the travellers.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Potts" <Greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:03 AM
> Subject: WE DON'T NEED NO STEENKING BADGES!!!!!
> 
> 
> > Hi Volks,
> >
> > You don't need a passport, either. Just is a reminder to the list
> > that crossing the Canada/US border still does not require a passport.
> > Border guards only require that US or Canadian citizens provide proof
> > of citizenship such as a birth certificate and photo ID. A passport
> > requirement is being proposed for vehicle crossings to take effect
> > DECEMBER 31st, 2007; but until then a passport is not needed, unless
> > your're from somewhere else. Heck, last time I crossed the border
> > they didn't even ask for my paperwork... They must be getting used to
> > me now.
> >
> > So take the opportunity to cross the worlds longest undefended border
> > with the least paperwork possible while you still can. Buses Of The
> > Corn is coming up in just 4 weeks. (August 5-7th, 2005) There's more
> > going on At BOTC 2005 than ever before:
> >
> > - Burrito Breakfast
> > - Swap Meet
> > - Tie Dye Workshop
> > - Driving Challenge
> > - Lots of Kids activities.
> > - Pot Luck Dinner and Corn Roast
> > - Campfires on Friday and Saturday - Bring your instrument for the
> > campfire Jam!
> >
> > We're in the same great location as ever at Heber Down Conservation
> > Area just north of Whitby Ontario Canada; about half an hour's drive
> > east of Toronto. By popular request this year we're bringing in
> > additional "industrial grade comfort stations". Please remember to
> > bring your own drinking water and bring along some firewood if
> > possible, and some quarters to operate the showers. Electrical
> > hookups are extremely limited at BOTC and will be allocated on the
> > basis of medical necessity. It's only two nights, so come on out to
> > BOTC and try roughing it a bit for a change in a campground without a
> > guard at the gate and lines painted on the ground.
> >
> > If you want more information please email me or visit the website at
> > http://www.busesofthecorn.com
> >
> > Official Event T-shirt information will be coming soon... There will
> > also be inexpensive plain white T's for sale at the tie dye event.
> >
> > Happy trails,
> >
> > Greg Potts
> > Toronto, Ontario, Canada
> >
> > 1973/74/79 Westfakia Conversion **Bob the Tomato**  LY3H
> > 1977 Sunroof Automatic L63H/L90D
> > http://www.pottsfamily.ca/westfakia
> > http://www.busesofthecorn.com
> >
>