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Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:41:22 -0400
Reply-To:     Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Window Tint Recommendations
Comments: To: Adam Thacker <adam@thacker.ca>
In-Reply-To:  <001901c587c8$add95e80$6401a8c0@10forward>
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Adam be sure to e-mail me when you are pulling the closet, I have some advice, Bentley 76.14 is kind of hard to follow.

Chris

On 7/13/05, Adam Thacker <adam@thacker.ca> wrote: > The Tint place I talked to said they need clear access to the area behind > the closet. "if I wanted a good job" So I have to wait until winter to > remove the closet or parts of it. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of > Christopher Gronski > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:21 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Window Tint Recommendations > > > John, > > Do they need access to the back of the windows to tint (ie: is it done from > inside out or outside in?). Just curious as the timing of putting my closet > back in will depend on it. Or alternatively is it easier for them to do with > the windows out (as four of them currently are). > > Chris > > On 7/13/05, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote: > > Chris, > > > > My son runs a tint shop and uses only the very best of films. Says it > > doesn't pay the customer or him to handle cheap film. He told me > > today that currently there are only two films he recommends - Llumar > > metalized films (his low end film - but it's a high end film on the > > market) and Pinnacle CP film by Formula One -his high end film for his > > shop. > > > > Llumar metalized film has, as one would expect, excellent UV > > rejection which reduces the heat, but has a bit of a shiny finish - > > not mirror finish, but shiny enough. > > > > Pinnacle is a ceramic film and does it's work by UV absorption. It > > does not have the shine on the surface the same way the metalized > > films do. > > > > The metalized films have been around for quite a while and have been > > very good, displacing virtually all the older films for general use. > > They have the disadvantage of being incompatible with the new > > electronics finding their way into the newer automobiles, and in the > > retrofitted electronics going into older automobiles. The metal in > > the films interferes with transmission and reception. > > > > Enter the CP (ceramic product) films.........! > > > > CP films (Pinnacle - a top brand) are the newest films available. They > > function by absorbing rather than reflecting UV. They do not interfere > > with the new electronics, and perform at a higher level in dealing > > with the heat issues. Though I have not found in the literature > > anything to support my view, I believe that the CP films offer some > > insulative effect in that ceramic transmits heat energy with less > > efficiency than metal. I suspect that one would be better off with a > > CP film vs a metal film for that reason alone, much less the > > excellent UV absorption. > > > > The only drawback to the CP films is the price. They are typically > > slightly under 2-1/2 times as expensive as metal films. > > > > In any case, I would suggest that you get all windows except the > > windshield tinted. By law the windshield cannot be tinted, and > > passenger and driver window must meet a certain light transmission > > standard, and that varies state to state. But virtually every state > > has a transmission standard. In virtually all cases, the passenger and > > driver windows will be lighter in appearance than the other windows, > > as a result of the law. Usually you can go as dark as you wish on all > > windows except the passenger and driver window. The windshield must > > remain clear, excepting a sunshade strip that may be installed across > > the top of the windshield. That too varies state to state, in terms of > > how much glass can be covered. > > > > Formula One films and Llumar films both carry national warranties and > > the companies are really good at making good on any film failures. > > Good tint shops will have in-house warranties as well that will take > > care of any labor charges that might accrue if they did the tint > > installation for you. Be sure to ask about that. > > > > I would suggest that you get that rear window tinted because it is a > > huge heat generator. I had all my windows done, including the rear > > hatch glass, and I've never had a lick of trouble with the defroster > > strips on the glass. > > > > I personally think it a mistake to use a really dark tint on the van > > windows as it interferes with clarity of vision. I'm interested in > > reducing heat and glare, but I still like sufficient light to see well > > through any glass while seated in the driver sat. This is especially > > true at night. But to each his own. > > > > There is one final trick that can be done that will help glare - both > > day and night - IF you can get the tint shop to do it. Of course you > > are on your own on this one. The inside of the front windshield can be > > tinted with a near clear metal tint. It is so neutral as not to be > > "noticeably" dark, but it helps dramatically with glare. As I said, > > patently illegal, but boy what a difference. > > > > Anyway ..... > > > > > > IMHO, a good tint job is worth it's weight. > > > > Regards, > > > > John Rodgers > > 88 GL Driver > > > > > > > > Christopher Gronski wrote: > > > > >I am considering tinting my windows and I wanted people's opinion on > > >two things: > > > > > >1) Type and brand of tint, what have you used that you like? I am > > >leaning towards the sort of mirrored look, but I'm still open to > > >suggestions. > > > > > >2) Which windows to tint? I am considering only tinting the side > > >windows (middle and rear) and leaving the cab area and the rear > > >window untinted. I'd like your opinon on this as well > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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