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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:54:36 -0400
Reply-To:     Adam Thacker <87westy@THACKER.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Adam Thacker <87westy@THACKER.CA>
Subject:      Re: Black Smoke and Poor Performance Intermitent
Comments: To: Evan Mac Donald <macdonald1987@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <20050714114655.95472.qmail@web81701.mail.yahoo.com>
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Actually I just changed my O2 Sensor last month on Joel Walkers Recommendation .. So I didn't think it was the problem. I just had my exhaust changed and was thinking of him saying he had a hard time removing my o2 sensor.. So Possibly it was damaged in the deal. yesterday on the way home I unplugged the 2 wires but forgot and left the green wire plugged in yesterday so today I tried again and unplugged all three wires it seems to be working, thanks for having me review what I had done... Well at least it hasn't done it since..

/athacker

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of Evan Mac Donald Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:47 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Black Smoke and Poor Performance Intermitent

Adam - My '85 did the same thing. Intermittent failures / faults will drive you nuts! But my solution ended up being the good ole O2 sensor. I later had a slightly different rough running / poor milage problem that I tried EVERYTHING to fix - new distributor, cap, wires, rotor, plugs, brain, temp sensor II, and could not get it to go away. It turned out to be the ignition module. After I replaced that, my idle was steady and smooth, and my milage is now on the high side of 17 MPG. I did not consider the the module as the failure point, because I thought that the module was one of those "works / stops working" failure items. It was not. The '87 does not have the same igition set-up as the '85, but there are components that do the same jobs...

Adam Thacker <87westy@THACKER.CA> wrote: 1987 Vanagon GL I am having the exact same problem as the person below but when I tried his email address it bounced on me if anyone has any Ideas of why this is happening to me or who Knows Neal Helfman's New Email address I would appreciate a reply. Like I say I am having the exact same problem as him I just have not replaced all the parts he did.

Original post here. http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9607&L=vanagon&P=R28890&m=2570 7

Subject: Help:87 syncro running bad

I am the consequential owner of a 1987 Vanogon Syncro. I need help with an electrical/ignition problem that won't go away for more than three months at a time. My van acts like there is water in the fuel and runs very rich and coughs black smoke. Power loss is evident and the idle is very rough. Every once in a while it runs wonderfully as if a mechanic were standing right there. Other times the power loss episodes are erratic and random. When it is acting up pressing the accellerator to the floor clears it up with a jolt of power and accelleration... let up on the gas and it starts jerking and coughing again. It has new heads; alternator; waterpump; CPU; plugs; wires; cap/rotor; air filter; etc.... Help me!!!! My name is Neal Helfman and my e-mail address is; NHelfman@aol.com If you know of anyone who specializes in Vanogon electronic fuel injection please give them my name!!!! I have $$$$$ to spend for the correct diagnosis!!! Thankyou r

Thank you Adam Thacker 1987 Vanagon GL


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