Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:51:46 -0600
Reply-To: Aaron Pearson <Aaron.Pearson@GXT.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Aaron Pearson <Aaron.Pearson@GXT.COM>
Subject: Re: Low Mileage Syncro Westy for $6,000?
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i like the line "to be honest, i'd not mention the
modifications...you'll get a much higher price". in other words "to be
honest, i'd be dishonest".
aaron
'87 syncro gl
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Gronski
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:42 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Low Mileage Syncro Westy for $6,000?
I got a response from Pop Top Heaven today. As Kim Brennan predicted
they are indicating that my modifications lower the value of my syncro.
As a favor to all list members I therefore invite all listees with non
stock equipment such as a Gary Lee rack, decoupler, syncro 16 fender
flares, shady boy awning, etc. to remove the offending equipment and
forward it to me. For the mere price of postage (paid by
you) I will install it on my van so that your resale vale is no longer
effected.
Chris
--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chris Nelson
Date: Jul 14, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: Vanagon
To: gronski@gmail.com
Patrick asked me to contact you regarding valuation of your vehicle.
I originally told him about a buyer interested at $6000. If it weren't
modified, we'd consider offering you more and buying it ourselves. It's
obvious you know your Syncros, but our buyers want original equipment.
It's a bit of a cult following J
I don't want to waste your time, and I feel you'll do much better on
eBay or another online source. To be honest, I'd not mention the
modifications...you'll get a much higher price.
Best,
Chris
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christopher Gronski <gronski@gmail.com>
Date: Jul 7, 2005 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: PTH Vehicle for sale
To: patrick
Its a syncro full westy and you've seen the mileage and equipment list,
would you sell for $6,000? If you would I will gladly take as many
syncro westies as you can provide in similar condition at that price.
Your website says "Click here to determine the value of your vehicle"
and "Click the link above or to the right to get a FREE valuation of
your vehicle!" it does not say click here to get a list of current
bidders. I am not going to start this process by revealing what I think
it is worth... that is not a valuation.
Chris
On 7/7/05, Patrick wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> The price below is what one of our listed buyers has offered for the
> vehicle. What is the absolute minimum you are willing to part with
> the vehicle for? That way I can avoid bringing low bids your way.
>
> Best,
> Patrick (Pop Top Heaven)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Gronski [mailto:gronski@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:55 PM
> To: patrick
> Cc: Lou (Pop Top Heaven)
> Subject: Re: PTH Vehicle for sale
>
> Hi Patrick, is there an error in that price? Did you get the details
> of the van's equipment?:
>
> Front and rear AC (front unit is BEHR aftermarket) Two gas heaters
> (Webasto BBW46 & Eberspacher B1L) Volks Cafe big bumpers w/ front and
> rear 2" hitches SA grille with relay setup Six 15" SA Alloy Rhein
> Wheels with Michelin Agilis 51 215/65-15 tires Volks Cafe oversized
> spare tire carrier side step bra silver reflective window insulation
> pads for all windows "secret audio" radio and 6 disc CD changer optima
> auxiliary battery
> 2 battery trickle chargers (wired into shore power) SA "Big Brake" Kit
> SA super heavy duty mud flaps
> 12.4 gallon aux. fuel tank
> smoked glass turn signals & tail lamps "Bagawest" fiberglass box for
> front luggage rack removable middle bench seat removable front bench
> seat (passenger side, replaces passenger seat - color does not match)
> Eurovan type sink faucet rear hatch, skylight, sliding door, and front
> window (driver and
> passenger) screens
> full width front rubber floor mat
> Yakima 4 bike swing away hitch rack
> rear three point seat belts
> S&S header exhaust system
> seven horns (wired inline)
> oversized wiper blades (21" & 19")
> cab window vent inserts
> VW logo stove grill inserts
> propane tank gauge
>
> Please let me know,
> Chris
>
> On 7/7/05, Patrick wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thanks for contacting us regarding your intention to sale your
vehicle.
> We
> > contacted our list of buyers and we currently have a buyer at
6,000.00.
> The
> > money is on file with us at this time. We can wire it to you at
> > your earliest convenience. Please let us know how you would like to
proceed.
> > We look forward to hearing from
> you.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Pop Top Heaven
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
On 7/7/05, Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@mac.com> wrote:
> Well, you're trying to sell to an intermediary. They'll want to mark
> it up for resale to make money on the deal.
>
> Most of what you have doesn't really raise the price much, and
> potentially LOWERS it for evaluation purposes because it isn't stock
> anymore. Things like the big brakes, larger wheels and SA headlights,
> >WE< in the community know that they are good upgrades, but for the
> average buyer, all they mean is that they can't get parts for those at
> the dealer (forget that they can't get stock parts at the dealers now
> either...)
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Christopher Gronski wrote:
>
> > Hello Volks,
> >
> > Just for a lark I submitted my van to poptop heaven to see what kind
> > of price my syncro westy would fetch. Though I recognize we as
> > owners tend to over value our pride an joys, I was a bit insulted by
> > the offer of $6,000 for my ride, particularly after listing the
> > optional equipment I have installed over the years:
> >
> > 86,000 miles
> > Front and rear AC (front unit is BEHR aftermarket) Two gas heaters
> > (Webasto BBW46 & Eberspacher B1L) Volks Cafe big bumpers w/ front
> > and rear 2" hitches SA grille with relay setup Six 15" SA Alloy
> > Rhein Wheels with Michelin Agilis 51 215/65-15 tires Volks Cafe
> > oversized spare tire carrier side step bra silver reflective window
> > insulation pads for all windows "secret audio" radio and 6 disc CD
> > changer optima auxiliary battery
> > 2 battery trickle chargers (wired into shore power) SA "Big Brake"
> > Kit SA super heavy duty mud flaps
> > 12.4 gallon aux. fuel tank
> > smoked glass turn signals & tail lamps "Bagawest" fiberglass box for
> > front luggage rack removable middle bench seat removable front bench
> > seat (passenger side, replaces passenger seat - color does not
> > match) Eurovan type sink faucet rear hatch, skylight, sliding door,
> > and front window (driver and
> > passenger) screens
> > full width front rubber floor mat
> > Yakima 4 bike swing away hitch rack
> > rear three point seat belts
> > S&S header exhaust system
> > seven horns (wired inline)
> > oversized wiper blades (21" & 19")
> > cab window vent inserts
> > VW logo stove grill inserts
> > propane tank gauge
> >
> > There are a few items on this list that are actually not installed
> > yet, but I wanted to see what they would say about my van in
> > "completed condition". The only VW option it is missing is the
> > locking differential.
> >
> > If I thought I could buy this van for $6,000 I would buy ten and
> > sell them on eBay for at least double the price....
> >
> > Thoughts?
> > Chris
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Patrick
> > Date: Jul 7, 2005 4:12 PM
> > Subject: PTH Vehicle for sale
> > To: gronski@gmail.com
> > Cc: "Lou (Pop Top Heaven)"
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thanks for contacting us regarding your intention to sale your
> > vehicle. We contacted our list of buyers and we currently have a
> > buyer at 6,000.00. The money is on file with us at this time. We
> > can wire it to you at your earliest convenience. Please let us know
> > how you would like to proceed. You may contact Lou (Pop Top Heaven)
> > at
> > (909) 821-3398 or email Patrick (Pop Top Heaven) at
> > patrickasm@verizon.net. We look forward to hearing from you.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Pop Top Heaven
> >
>
>
