Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:35:18 -0700
Reply-To: Tom Young <tomyoung1@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Tom Young <tomyoung1@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: No start..... rebuilt engine.... over my head...
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From: "Benny boy" <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: No start..... rebuilt engine.... over my head...
> I need suggestions... i have a 84 here that i just resealed... (heads)
> it's been 8 hours that i am trying to start that van without success..
>
> Every components where checked...(Fuel-air-fire), injection wiring and all
> FI components, AFM, that stupid 84 hall-sender and idle system control...
> EVERYTHING... mechanical timing and so on... am over my head with this
> van... of course, it came here ont's own so i created the problem... the
> only thing that was not change is the slow moving starter....??? still,
it's
> turning enought...
>
> You should also know that the van started yesterday for about 15 sec. it
> died after and never started again.... i have fuel, air and fire (basic
rule)...
>
> Every single wire to the ECU was checked, every possible FI components
were
> checked per the book....
>
> Any suggestions????????? maybe am not seing something obvious....
It's *not* "Fuel-air-fire", it's "sufficient compression, acceptable
fuel/air ratio, and strong enough spark at the proper time." If you're
really sure that you have "fuel-air-fire" then assuming compression's OK
your fuel/air ratio is strongly out of whack or the spark's being delivered
at the wrong time.
Are you sure you didn't flood the engine with that 15 second start? If so,
all your subsequent attempts at start will only worsen the problem. (I did
this once and the air distribution box ended up with a cup or so of gas
sitting in it.) Pull the plugs and see if they're wet; if they are, let
things sit (plugs out) for a day or so and try again later.
Did you pull the distributor and maybe put it in 180 degrees off, or attach
the plug wires in the wrong places?
You need to determine what part of "sufficient compression, acceptable
fuel/air ratio, and strong enough spark at the proper time" isn't working
for you.
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Tom Young
Lafayette, CA 94549
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