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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:28:47 -0700
Reply-To:     Zoltan <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Zoltan <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject:      Re: how to remove driver's side "engine tin" pushrod cover
Comments: To: Ben S <phlogiston420@GMAIL.COM>
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I agree with anyone who says that this is a bad design. To undo the exhaust to be able to get to water drain plug or change a tube or a sensor is wrong. Exhausts should not be disturbed. They are always too much trouble to remove. Rust is the main reason. The erosion of the bolts and nuts are too common, the place is not handy to work at, and the thread of the aluminum cylinder heads are wearing out every time you tighten a bolt. It should have been designed differently. I clip out an opening on the hole of the tin for easy removing next time. That way I only have to loosen the bolt to be able to slide the tin out from under it. Don't have to remove the bolt all the way every time. Corrosion and the erosion that goes together with it is the main culprit, but an engine that is not properly "looped" grounded from one end to the other will make life difficult for you. Yesterday I removed an exhaust system that was so corroded at the connections that the nuts were almost the size of the bolts. It is not uncommon to use half inch or twelve mm wrenches to remove the eroded bolts but in this case even ten was not enough. Only the cutting torch helps. Wish you luck. Zoltan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben S" <phlogiston420@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:40 PM Subject: how to remove driver's side "engine tin" pushrod cover

so i have been perusing the archives looking for hints as i begin my oil pressure gauge installation... i see a lot of talk about threading 1/8" npt into 10x1 mm and so on, but i haven't located much info about the one aspect of this job that is scaring me--removing the so called "engine tin," the protective plate installed below the pushrod tubes which blocks access to the location of the stock oil pressure switch that i am going to remove.

the reason that this scares me is that i once attempted to remove this plate, sorry, i mean tin, when i was replacing my water pump and wanted to flush the cooling system. i had hoped to drain the coolant from the engine via the drain plug located under the tin, but after using more strength than i thought prudent, i was only able to get the bolts out halfway! of course i am referring to the bolts which attach the down pipes to the exhaust manifold and also hold the mounting arms for this plate. apparently their lifetime of severe temperature cycling has seized them up. so here is the question i pose: based on the experience of the list, will i break the heads off these bolts trying to remove them?? i do not want to be stuck with a leaky exhaust and some sheared off studs that i will never be able to remove.

how many people have broken these bolts trying to remove them? if i do get them out, will i need to run a tap into the hole to re thread it? does anyone know the sizes of these bolts so that i can have replacements on hand? any tricks for getting them out?

thanks!

Ben.


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