Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:48:24 -0700
Reply-To: Joel Cort <joel_cort@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Joel Cort <joel_cort@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Water pump ?
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Hi,
I just finished fixing a waterpump and the associated thermostat housing on my 84 1.9. I got the pump and thermostat for cheap from one of the list vendors, but what a pain in the bussky to do this job. The price of the pump is minimal compare to the labor cost for this job.
I had done the water pump on my 2.1 Syncro before and that was no big deal because the thermostat is somewhere else. But on the 1.9 it becomes this humongous chuck of aluminum that needs to get fitted with rubber hoses, steel pipes and small allen bolts. What a job.
Then you got to bleed the system just right to purge the air out.
One of the local shops here in Roachester NY, just did the same job for a fellow vanner with an 84 1.9 and they ended up working on it for 3 days and charging the poor guy $700 for the job.
Of course I had to help him bleed the air out of the circuit. For $700 these so called Bosch technicians did not bleed the air out of a Vanagon! That the second shop in Rochester, who speciallize in VW/AUDI/BMW type of cars and don't have a clue with the Vanagon. Gee!
SO the short of the story with the water pump. Expect to pay if you take it to a shop. Make sure that the shop knows what they are doing: 1) Use good blue VW coolant ($28/gallon OUCH) 2) Let the van warm up and purge the air out of the system 3) Purge the air out again while raising the radiator and the front of the van about 1' and reving the engine ~2000 RPM.
Good luck,
Joel
89 Syncro Westy
84 Westy (Force-ale)
Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote:
If the shaft is not straight, the bearings have failed. The screeching
was most likely the sound of the impeller chewing up the engine case and
it stopped screeching when there was clearance again. The pump will cost
anywhere from $60 on up depending on who supplies it. $100-$130 would be
typical shop price. ~3 hours labor for install, epoxy repair to the
case. The oil cooler hoses and pipes should be inspected and replaced as
needed along with the oil cooler o-ring. I would also replace the short
hose between the two pipes under the crank pulley.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Sam P
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:36 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Water pump ?
Well it is finally my turn. I noticed a steady drip, drip, drip from my
engine and crawled under to check it out. The drip definitely comes from
the rear of the engine in the vicinity of the water pump. Since I don't
do my own repairs what can I expect to pay to have this fixed, assuming
of course that it is the water pump. I should add that there was a loud
screeching sound for several days when the engine was started but that
usually subsided very soon. Also, looking at the water pump from the top
through the hatch the gap between the pump pulley as if the fan belt was
too tight and pulled the shaft out of alignment. and the pump body is
somewhat asymmetrical. Any advice?
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