Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:38:28 -0400
Reply-To: "A. Hurley" <ahurley@VIEWIT.COM>
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From: "A. Hurley" <ahurley@VIEWIT.COM>
Subject: Re: A/C - Freon to R134 conversion
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Thank you! I've been searching online for forty-five minutes, archives,
here, for some reason it doesn't seem to be in my Bently, the dealer
said the smaller was the one, but they don't "look" that different....!
Andree
On
Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Kenneth Wilford wrote:
> If you look on the rear of the compressor you will see two letters. A
> large S and a large D. These stand for Suction and Discharge. The
> suction is the low pressure side and the hose hooked to it will be the
> low pressure side. The Discharge is the high side and likewise with the
> hose attached to it. Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. Hurley [mailto:ahurley@viewit.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:01 PM
> To: Ken Wilford
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: A/C - Freon to R134 conversion
>
>
> Hi,
>
> We are in the process of trying this method but are a bit hung up on
> which is the low and high fitting?
>
> Is the fitting that is lower and closer to the engine the lower
> fitting?
>
> There is one that goes to the center of the compressor and one that
> leaves from the side - which is the low side? (I'm choosing the lower
> one but we are having a discussion...).
>
> Hopefully someone sees this soon as we are all set to jet!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andree
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun
> 2005, Ken Wilford
> wrote:
>
> > I have done the 134a conversions in many Vanagons with the full monty
> > (compressor, new hoses, new dryer, new expansion valve, new o-rings
> > and oil, flushing everything out, new fittings, etc) and have just had
>
> > Vanagons that used to have R-12 in it and it is like a can or two low,
>
> > and just added 134a to the van. Both work. If the compressor is bad
> > or the system isn't working right to start with the full monty version
>
> > is the way to go. If the van was running cool just last summer and
> > isn't this year, you could probably get away with the "add some R134a
> > to the system" option.
> >
> > Example:
> > I bought an 89 Wolfsburg last summer in Georgia that had been off the
> > road for a couple of years. I brought my tools down and had it up and
>
> > running in a matter of a couple of days, but it was hot and I wanted
> > A/C as well. It wasn't working and I couldn't bring my A/C tools down
>
> > to Georgia with me. So I went to Wal-mart, and bought a charging kit
> > that came with a couple of cans of 134a, some conversion fittings and
> > a charging hose. I think it was around $30. Plus a couple additional
>
> > cans for good measure. Added a can and the compressor came on. Two
> > cans and a half and the A/C was blowing very cold. Drove the van for
> > the rest of the summer and the A/C worked very well.
> >
> > Just my experience,
> > Ken Wilford
> > John 3:16
> > www.vanagain.com
> >
> > Stan Wilder wrote:
> >
> > >I can't believe that you guys are getting such a fleecing on A/C
> > >parts. I bought new hoses matching my old hoses for $220.00, New
> > >suction valve $28.00, New Dryer about $32.00 and added that under car
>
> > >condenser (I already had it). I replace the seal in my compressor for
>
> > >$15.00. Bought ester oil for the compressor for $6.00 for 6 oz. and
> > >bought 12 cans of 134 from Sams club for $16.00. The system only took
>
> > >2 and a half 12" cans for a good charge. I borrowed an evacuation
> > >pump but could have rented one for $10.00 I really think you could
> > >screw up many times attempting to do it yourself before you ever get
> > >to the $1500.00 tag.
> > >
> > >
> > >Stan Wilder
> > >Engine Ceramics
> > >214-352-4931
> > >www.engineceramics.com
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mike Miller" <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
> > >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:05 PM
> > >Subject: Re: A/C - Freon to R134 conversion
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Had it done. I'm into the whole thing about 1500 dollars and it
> > >>cools kind of. Still need the long hoses from front to back so I
> > >>keep refilling it
> > >>
> > >>
> > >with
> > >
> > >
> > >>134
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>On 6/28/05 1:43 PM, "David M" <covrambles@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>http://www.gti16v.org/tb879503.htm
> > >>>Has anyone had their Vanagon's a/c professionally converted (as in
> > >>>above link) from R12 to R134 and how much should it cost?
> > >>>My Vanagon's A/c used to work well, now it does not
> > >>>blow cold at all. I'm now in Phoenix, AZ so the van is
> > >>>virtually unusable from May till October because of
> > >>>this since its 100+ degrees every day.
> > >>>Whan I bought my van the previous owner had had the
> > >>>a/c recharged at a VW dealer and it cost $450. Thats
> > >>>why I would like to convert to R134, I figure the cost
> > >>>of frean will kill me.
> > >>>
> > >>>PS. I just had the a/c repaired in my 1995 Mercury
> > >>>Sable and it cost $1900, mostly in labor since they
> > >>>had to remove the dash and steering column to get to
> > >>>it.
> > >>>-
> > >>>David, 87 Wolfsburg
> > >>>
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